Question about Lyme disease

Submitted by TD on 3/9/06 at 9:49 PM. ( )

I have a scheduled check up next week for a test for lyme disease and my question is........You folks that have had lyme disease......Did it attack your hip joint and if so will you describe the symptoms to me?.....just curiuos ....Thank you all very much....TD

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TD, it can metastisize to any of the joints

This response submitted by George on 3/9/06 at 9:54 PM. ( )

The big problem with Lymes is that it is a great immitator and can show dozens of symptoms if not caught in its initial stages. When you tell your physician to run the test, make sure you ask him to run a "Western panel". There are over 20 different strains of Lymes and the standard test only looks for the 7 most common of them. The Western panel looks for them all.

Ty George

This response submitted by TD on 3/9/06 at 10:38 PM. ( )

I most certainly will ......I,d never have known to ask that and I know how incompetent alot of doctors are.......Thanx again and hope you are feeling better....TD


This response submitted by TR on 3/9/06 at 10:49 PM. ( )

Hey George If you are going to use them big words you got to learn to spell them..Just joking ! Glad you are feeling better...TR

True TR

This response submitted by George on 3/9/06 at 10:58 PM. ( )

Happy fingers

US Government Admits Lyme Disease Is A Bioweapon

This response submitted by Lymerayja on 3/10/06 at 12:27 AM. ( )

US Government Admits Lyme Disease Is A Bioweapon

By Lymerayja

The existence of the Lyme disease epidemic is officially covered up in the UK, its myriad presentations routinely misdiagnosed as everything from "M.E." to MS to hypochondria. This is the first admission by a US government body that the cause is an incapacitating biowar agent:

SAN ANTONIO (AP) -- The $10.6 million Margaret Batts Tobin Laboratory Building will provide a 22,000-square-foot facility to study such diseases as anthrax, tularemia, cholera, lyme disease, desert valley fever and other parasitic and fungal diseases. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention identified these diseases as potential bioterrorism agents.".

So, for the first time, a US government body admits that Lyme disease is a biological warfare agent. This is the reason that hundreds of thousands of men, women and children around the world have been left to rot with wrong diagnoses, or have had their Lyme disease acknowledged but been told that it is an "easily-treated" disease, given 3 weeks' antibiotics, then told to shove off when their symptoms carried on after that.

In Britain the existence of the epidemic is denied completely, and virtually no effort made to warn or educate the public about the dangers of ticks, which carry the bacteria Borrelia burgdorferi.

The Borrelia genus has been a subject of biowar experimentation at least as far back as WW2, when the infamous Japanese Unit 731, which tortured and experimented on live prisoners, studied it.

The reality is, Lyme disease is for many a chronic, horrendous, incapacitating disease producing crippling fatigue, constant pain, loss of memory, possible paralysis, psychosis, blindness and even death.

It was an ideal biowar agent because it evades detection on routine tests, has an enormous range of different presentations, and can mimic everything from ADHD to multiple sclerosis to carpal tunnel syndrome to rheumatoid arthritis to chronic fatigue syndrome (M.E.) to lupus to schizophrenia. Enemy medical staff would never know what had hit them, nor even that ONE illness had hit their population, rather than an unexplained rise in dozens of known conditions.

Honest doctors and scientists who tried to treat or research Lyme disease according to ethical principles have been viciously persecuted by government-backed organisations in the US, Europe and elsewhere. Many specialists in the US were threatened with loss of their license or had anonymous, false allegations sent to the medical board, which tied them up in mountains of paperwork and legal fees...some were forced out of medicine or even driven to suicide.

Instead, medical disinfo agents, most of whom have a background in military/biowarfare units, such as Dr Allen Steere, Mark Klempner, Philip Baker, Edward McSweegan, David Dennis, Alan Barbour etc were enabled to assume top positions in Lyme research , CDC, NIH etc from where they issued false information , covering up the true seriousness and chronic nature of the disease, and comdemned untold numbers to a living hell.

Please help Lyme patients publicise this scandal, which has caused suffering on a massive scale. Contact me by email if you are interested in helping.

Thank you.



Patricia A. Doyle, DVM, PhD- Bus Admin, Tropical Agricultural Economics
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urine test

This response submitted by newbirdman on 3/10/06 at 6:00 AM. ( )

I'm not sure if this is called the same thing that George is talking about but when I had it , I took a few tests that came back negative but when I took the urine test , it showed positive . When I had it , I felt so tried that even in the morning when driving to work , I had to use cruise control because it hurt to press the gas pedal and its only 10 miles to my job . Also just holding a gallon of milk in line at the store was a problem . Its wasnt so much as a hurting feeling ,it just felt like you ran 5 miles and were to tried to do anything . Rick


This response submitted by Mr.T on 3/10/06 at 7:17 AM. ( )

It could be something else, maybe you need a hip joint replaced, or a herniated disk can cause that pain. Wait for the test, and then worry about what you do or do not have.

Bio-Weapon. What a crock of crap

This response submitted by George on 3/10/06 at 7:37 AM. ( )

If we could ever get rid of Chicken Little, think how peaceful things would be on here. Bio-weapon my ass. Wonder where West Nile, Rocky Mountain Spotted fever, anthrax, hoof-in-mouth, hantavirus, rubella, small pox, and diptheria come from. And lets not forget polio and meningitis.

Rheumatoid Arthritis

This response submitted by Alex on 3/10/06 at 1:51 PM. ( )

And Lyme disease show exactly the same symptoms, I know I have both.
It is very painfull and when you assume a posture for a longtime is hard to sit up or move.They both do the same damage.
So don't assume you have lyme until you take a Rheumatoid Arthritis test.

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