Roadkill

Submitted by Valentin Potchekansky,Bulgaria on 11/6/1998.

( wasbg@mailcity.com )

Not too far ago I spent two yaers in The USA.Throughout the Winter seasons I saw much of roadkill down the Roads.Till now I am wondering as a member of The National Taxidermy Association of USA have I the right for collecting some of them. Thanks for any explaination and best whishes to all! Valentin

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RK's

This response submitted by Bill on 11/7/1998.

( yoxtax@aol.com )

Hi Valentin-I'm not sure on the translation,but each state has it's own law regarding the removal and possession of specimans salvaged from the roadside or any other manner. Write back to this posting and be more specific if you can and I'll try to give you a lot better answer if you'd like, OK? ...Bill


To Bill

This response submitted by Valentin Potchekansky,Bulgaria on 11/7/1998.

( wasbg@mailcity.com )

Hi Bill, I am sorry for my bad English,but you know the aliens-terrible pronunciation and speaking in infinitive.My question is that: As a member of The NTA may I pick up dead animals from the road,killed accidentally by cars on the roadside.Does the NTA membership give me some rights of doing it without fear of some fine,or penalty. Thanks a lot and best whishes... Valentin/The Bulgarian/


Valentin...

This response submitted by Bill on 11/7/1998.

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...your english is fine, in fact its better than Bob C's and he's been here for about 38 years! I just wasnt sure what you were referring to. No, the NTA does not give you any additional authority to do this. In my state of NY the local CO knows that if I see something of value to me that I would make the "scoop" and call him within a day or so. The law is not specific here on this, leaving much to the officer's discretion. If the animal was killed on the road in its legal season to possess it through legal means, they normally don't have any problem issuing a permit to possess. I must stress the importance of learning the law as it applies in your area, though. The law seems to change from one officer to the next, in some instances! By the way, Valentin the Bulgarian, are you now in the states? Where, and what do you do with taxidermy? I've seen and answered your postings in the past. Love to hear back from you,as I'm sure others would, too. Later, Bill.


Any particular critter you're wanting?

This response submitted by Jerry S. on 11/9/1998.

( jds@vvm.com )

Valintin - Please don't take this as an insult . . . it's not meant to be. I enjoy reading your posts but as I read them in my mind I see the character "Antonio" on the TV Show "Wings". But that's OK cause he's my favorite on that show (well, except for Crystal Bernard!). Anyway . . . are there any particular animals that you are wanting? There are enough taxidermists here that we can probably come up with any legal specimens you want. Plus they would probably be in much better shape than if they were a roadkill. I'm from Texas and would be happy to help you out. Jerry S.


Bad English Bob

This response submitted by Bob C. on 11/9/1998.

( bobswildlife@webtv>net )

Bill, My English may not be good , but my redneck is fine!!!!Oh by the way ,thanks for saying I'm 38 ! I'm really 40. Hi Valentin hows everything? Bills right about the laws here in the states. I may be wrong but I believe in Pennsylvania you can't pickup roadkills. Here in NY it depends on which conservation officer you talk to on which day. Bob C


To all...

This response submitted by Valentin Potchekansky,Bulgaria on 11/9/1998.

( wasbg@mailcity.com )

Gentlemen, You are a really Great team!Thanks to all of you for your kind words.I apreciate it very,very much! Bill,at the moment I am in my Country(guess which?).I own small taxidermy studio,located in Sofia.Mostly of my clients are International hunters from all Europe comming to Bulgaria for hunting, for large game as European Bison,Red Stag,Brown Bear,Fallow Deer,Chamois, Moufflon,Roe Buck,Wild Boars etc.,just to name a few.Also,I have lot of work for Bulgarian hunters,too.I make my own polyurethane forms,after sculpting the models myself.The forms aren't so good as the Americans,but I am trying to do my best and,however,the Clients, are satisfy.That is shortly for my work,I forgot to introduce myself, I'm 42,education - Institute of Forestry in Sofia,12 years I worked as a wildlife photographer for The Bulgarian Hunting and Fishing Union, and since 1994,I started in the business of Taxidermy.As Mike Boice said our life is too short to not to do what we like.He is right! Hi Jerry,I let you know the reason of my question for roadkill.While of my staying in The States I drove too much and on the 80 interstate highway, somewhere in Pensylvania I saw few whitetails-three does and one male, killed may be by truck.The antlers now are hang on the wall here in my home. So,I am trying to answer myself did I some voilation?!?!I like very much all wild and domestic animals and I can't bypass dead animal suitable for mounting. Bob,I am sorry,if I am the cause for the war between You and Bill Don't be angry,man :^)Tomorow I will email you message you waiting for a long time... Again,thanks to all of guys and good luck! Valentin P.S.By the way,where Mr.Bellucci lost?I miss his answers in the Forum Sorry,again for the bad language:^)


Me and Bob

This response submitted by Bill on 11/10/1998.

( yoxtax@aol.com )

I know Jerry is bumming because you aren't the guy from Wings, but he's OK. As for Bob, we beat each other up ALL the time on the forum. In fact, he's really 42 yrs. Ha ha ha! No, I don't believe anyone will be looking for you to return the antlers you found, although Bob may try to blackmail you for a european speciman now that he knows! It was interesting to read your credentials, too. As for JB, he's laying low for a bit, look for him to be back after the deer season, I'll bet...


Huummph!!

This response submitted by Jerry S. on 11/10/1998.

( jds@vvm.com )

So what's wrong with being in your early 40's?? I see absolutely NOTHING wrong with it! Actually, I'm a whole lot more OK with it now than I was 20 years ago! (Valentin . . . watch for an Email!) Jerry


Not to worry!!!!

This response submitted by Bob C on 11/10/1998.

( bobswildlife@webtv.net )

Valentin, You didn't start a war between Bill and I. We've known each other for about 15yrs. and are very good friends.I dont think I should have said that. Yo Jerry , Believe me theres nothing wrong with being in your 40s , 50s , 60s , whatever.Im just glad to be alive after doing taxidermy for almost 30 yrs.Yes your math is right, I dd my first deer head for a customer at 13 yrs old!!!Believe it or not I still have a picture of it somewhere.Something else you've got to realize , Bill's the PUP out of the group.I love it , I'm older than him and I've got about 5 more hairs on my head than he does!!! Thats not saying much for either of us! Bob C.


Just opinion...

This response submitted by Valentin Potchekansky,Bulgaria on 11/10/1998.

( wasbg@mailcity.com )

Rather be 40(50,60)then pregnant,right?:^) Bob I know it is a frendly war.You are really GREAT TEAM.I am glad to contact you indeed! Best whishes! Valentin


Credentials......

This response submitted by Valentin Potchekansky,Bulgaria on 11/10/1998.

( wasbg@mailcity.com )

Bill,I am sorry I saw too late you mention for interest of some credentials of mine You understand-bad English...Unfortunatelly,I didn't ask nobody of my Clients for it,simply I don't need it.But,if you are interesting of my works I can send to you by the email some pictures. Best whishes! Valentin


valentin

This response submitted by bill on 11/10/1998.

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The credentials I meant were the ones you described, your education, your business and what type of mounts you do there...all very impressive. That plus your sense of humor, you ARE one of us. Hey guys, the only reason Bob knows he has 5 more hairs than me is because he's always trying to run his fingers through my hair. Ha! Actually, even my wife can't do it, there's not enough there. Let's put it this way, me and Bob both buy our shampoo from Rittel's !!! We used to use Head and Shoulders but its now more like Head and Shower Drain, if you follow me. For any one still reading this, me being a PUP is that I'm the younger of the 3 guys mentioned, at 38 yrs and my 1st customer deerhead was when I was 15. And yes, I do have the pic !


To Bill

This response submitted by Valentin Potchekansky,Bulgaria on 11/11/1998.

( wasbg@mailcity.com )

Did you see Bill,did you see?Again bad English!!! Valentin


yes, but...

This response submitted by Yox on 11/11/1998.

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...but it's GOOD Bulgarian !


Accidentally Killed Wildlife.

This response submitted by Bob E. on 11/11/1998.

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California Fish and Game Code provides that picking up accidentally killed wildlife is NOT a legal means of taking or possessing. California's indigenous wildlife can be legally taken and lawfully possessed only under the authority of a California Department of Fish and Game permit, ie.: Hunting license, Fishing license, Trapping license, Fur dealer license, Educational/scientific collecting permit, etc., etc. Notwithstanding wildlife protected by the Migratory Bird Treaty Act, the Endangered Species Act, each State has jurisdiction over the taking and possession of it's own indigenous wildlife, and the import of all animals. Animal rights organizations have been trying to bring about the ceding, to the Federal Government, of State's authority over wildlife inhabiting Federal lands within State's borders. As has been alluded to in previous responses, the interpretation of and the inforcement of State's laws, rules and/or regulations, governing the taking and possession of it's indigenous wildlife, can be found to be unique to regions, even to enforcement officers. This may be due to certain ambiguities, accidental or contrived. Probably the best plan of action is what has been recommended, be prepared, ASK FIRST, know the law and the local warden. What we each do can reflect upon all of Taxidermydom! Best wishes. May GOD Bless!!!


Oh, my God...what I did?

This response submitted by Valentin Potchekansky,Bulgaria on 11/11/1998.

( wasbg@mailcity.com )

I am Guilty,Sir.Never do it again... Valentin,doesn't speaking English!


Appologize......

This response submitted by Valentin,The BG on 11/11/1998.

( wasbg@mailcity.com )

I am sorry,Mr.B.Edelman,it was just for laugh.Your information is very seriouse.Thanks for it! Your are right!All of us have to respect the Law,all over the Globe,thus,we will resist together against Mother Taxidermy attackers.My apologies again,sorry...Valentin


He'd be a blast!

This response submitted by Jerry on 11/12/1998.

( jds@vvm.com )

Guys . . . can you imagine a group of us hitting the clubs at night - and taking Valentin with us! That would be a fun night! Jerry


Sounds GREAT

This response submitted by Bob C on 11/12/1998.

( bobswildlife@webtv.net )

Hey Jerry , that sounds like a great idea.The worlds are comming up you know. Maybe Valetin will come over to visit us!!!!We'd have a GREAT TIME !!!!!Hey Valentin , if you see this are you planning to come to the World Taxidermy Competiton? I hope so! Bob C


Maybe...

This response submitted by Valentin Potchekansky,BG on 11/12/1998.

( Wasbg@mailcity.com )

I love your idea too,Friends! It is Great!!! I haven't any plans,now.First let survive the winter and postwinter seasons.By the way,do you think Mr.B.Edelman insulted me for the bandy joke above? You know-nothing personally! Later,Valentin


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