Question about rabbies

Submitted by Chris on 3/25/02. ( seducktor@chartertn.net ) 24.158.134.88

I was just wondering if you were skinning an animal with rabbies and had and open wound on your hand if you can contract the disease through the wound or is it only contracted through the bite of the animal? and also can you tell if an animal is rabbid just by looking at it?

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If the undamaged brain flouoreces under a black light

This response submitted by John C on 3/25/02. ( ) 64.216.172.68

then its rabid.


Excuse me, I have a cold.

This response submitted by ratskinner on 3/25/02. ( ) 63.20.230.52

I had a rabbid as a pet, but he died.


Good one..

This response submitted by Dan on 3/25/02. ( ) 204.203.52.154

Rat....Gloves man, gloves!


Bite

This response submitted by Maryann on 3/25/02. ( mjaz@lightstream.net ) 216.130.3.35

Don't you have to get bitten by the infected animal to contract rabies?


Nope!

This response submitted by Bob C on 3/25/02. ( bobswildlife@aol.com ) 64.12.96.134

Hey Maryann, Nope you dont have to be bitten to get rabies. The virus is carried in the nervous tissue and the saliva. Thats why anyone who comes in contact with a rabid animal must go through the rabies shots. We had that problem a couple of years ago here in NY with a rabid goat at a county fair. A whole bunch of people had to go the the rabies vaccine. Bob C


Thanks

This response submitted by Maryann on 3/25/02. ( mjaz@lightstream.net ) 216.130.3.43

Thanks for the info Bob. I better start wearing gloves when I skin out mammals.


you can actually inhale rabies!

This response submitted by Ed on 3/25/02. ( nuisancetrap4u@aol.com ) 64.12.96.45

No joke...serious as a day is long! Trapping nuisnace animals is part of my everyday life! I know several state biologist who have told me of this several times. You can wear gloves and metal underwear... but if the animal is infected and say you cut the and spinal cord of the animail removing the skull etc...well then you have a good chance of inhaling the virus most likely with you even knowing! (not a 100% chance, but the potential for the possiblity is there) Skunks, ground hogs, coon are just a few carriers of the rabies virus so a lot of you "road kill" picker uppers should keep this in mind. Since you have no knowledge of the animals state of health before coming tire bait!

Have questions, contact your local animal control dept. or a state wildlife biologist. I may be able to dig up some old info on this and pass it along.

Ed


Ed's right

This response submitted by CUR on 3/25/02. ( Wildart@prodigy.net ) 64.196.209.236

Ed's right about aerosol contraction.

The rabies virus causes an acute encephalitis in all warm-blooded hosts, including humans, and the outcome is almost always fatal. Although all species of mammals are susceptible to rabies virus infection, only a few species are important as reservoirs for the disease. In the United States, several distinct rabies virus variants have been identified in terrestrial mammals, including raccoons, skunks, foxes, and coyotes. In addition to these terrestrial reservoirs, several species of insectivorous bats are also reservoirs for rabies.

Transmission of rabies virus usually begins when infected saliva of a host is passed to an uninfected animal. Various routes of transmission have been documented and include contamination of mucous membranes (i.e., eyes, nose, mouth), aerosol transmission, and corneal transplantations. The most common mode of rabies virus transmission is through the bite and virus-containing saliva of an infected host.

The use of black light may be an indication of infection by one organism or another, John, but many bacteria and viral organisms and their by-products are florescent. The color of the material under black light may be indicative of disorder or disease, but it is microscopy or agluttid tests that provide clinical evidence.

The basic rules are to wear face protection and rubber gloves and a rubber apron at all practical times. Keep a bar or jar of disinfectant soap nearby and frequently wash hands or gloved hands between procedures. Avoid curious and un-necessary necropsy procedures and avoid handling neural tissue unless absolutely necessary. Use bactericide solutions to clean scapels, bone saws and any tool that came into contact with neural or mucal tissue. Know the origin of the specimen before making the first cut. Chances are that Winter killed active species are not infected. Bats and other hibernators may harbor the virus.

The bottom line, ladies and gentlemen, is to handle all warm blooded creatures and most reptiles that come into the shop as if they were your mother-in-law's underware. Rabies is much less a problem than tuleremia or VEE, WNV. the Hanta virus, or a dozen other pathogens that would just love to get under your hide. These pathogens are not new, the only difference between today's mammals and yesteryears is the headlines. In 1950 the obituary would read, "taxidermist dies," or "dies from mysterious disorder". Today, the same obituary lines would read, "Died from CJD Cross-variant because the stupid bastard didn't wear gloves". See yas........


BUT...

This response submitted by Bill Yox on 3/25/02. ( ) 64.12.96.134

Theres still not one documented case of transfer via saliva, at least not in NY state. I was informed of this after a friend of mine who will remain un-named (lol) brought an infected and very alive rabid raccoon to my shop. You tend to get to know the disease techs by first name after a few days of their phone calls, etc, let me tell you! Luckily the contact wasnt a bite, and I had no open wounds.


Saliva?

This response submitted by Cur on 3/26/02. ( wildart@prodigy.net ) 64.196.209.246

What other substance puts the organism into a bite wound? Saliva is the leading source for contraction. well maybe New Yorkers have thicker skins now that Hillary is their leading lady....LOL. I did research the data bank in NY CDC and the Wadsworth library (in NY). their leading indicators for contraction is saliva and animal to animal and animal to human bite.....i.e. saliva.

Just for fun, I researched the incidence of rabies in NY state over the last fifty years and it is on the rise. Human deaths are none or minimal due to adequate post trauma treatment. During the thirty years from 1965-1995, there were no deaths. Perhaps that is what the med techs were talking about.


Chris

This response submitted by Cyndi on 4/8/02. ( Feraresexcorio@aol.com ) 205.188.209.39

I believe in preventative medicine. Go to your family physician or hospital...and start prerabies exposure boosters. They are given over a series of shots for several weeks and are given Intramuscularly. I am rabies vaccinated and lyme vaccinated. I wouldn't have it any other way working so closely with these diseased animals. Ofcourse, precautionary measures must always be taken as anything else in life.

E-mail me for more info...


hi

This response submitted by me on 5/15/02. ( ) 24.91.212.188

HI


HELLO

This response submitted by kris on 07/22/2002. ( ) 207.250.122.119

how do you know if you have rabbies?


Um ...a rat bit me finger ?

This response submitted by Deborah on 07/30/2002. ( orah_deb@hotmail.com ) 138.77.121.253

um ...a rat bit my finger and he took a substantial amount of flesh as well can i get it?


bit by a baby possum

This response submitted by concerned on 08/20/2002. ( ) 205.188.209.39

i was bit on my finger with a very small scrach and it only bleed for a second. I then milked the wound immediately for 3 to 4 minutes while placing alcohol the whole time. what do you think i should do?


im doin a report?

This response submitted by bob brown on 10/05/2002. ( ca_chick_23@yahoo.com ) 66.191.59.215

where can i find a pic for my report?

p.s sorry about your finger


dog bite

This response submitted by Yolly on 10/22/2002. ( krisly27_2002@yahoo.com ) 203.167.77.240

my husband has been bitten by a dog a day ago. he has been injected with an anti-rabbies yesterday. can i be infected with rabbies if we have sex? the doctor said i won't. do you agree?


i love animals

This response submitted by sara on 10/31/2002. ( araibian_eyes@hotmail.com ) 203.143.3.205

there is this stray dog that i always feed outside my school how would i know it has rabbies and what r the symptoms of a dog getting rabbies
and how did rabbies form?


i have a question

This response submitted by Jessica on 11/01/2002. ( lil_missy_2003@yahoo.com ) 168.170.91.130

what are some of the signs that a person who got bit by a dog would have?


Where the fudge they came from?

This response submitted by CecE on 11/07/2002. ( cece86@hotmail.com ) 204.255.213.29

Where the fudge rabbies came from.


My dog got into a fight with a ratcoon

This response submitted by Angela on 11/24/2002. ( skaniaris@cfl.rr.com ) 24.26.41.156

My dog was in a fight with a ratcoon and I don't know what to do. First thing I have done is put him in his pen. How long does it take for rabbies to show up? He has his shot does this matter? Please help! It's cold out and I don't want to leave him out if I don't have to.


help what do I do?!?

This response submitted by Josh Bryan on 12/05/2002. ( Papa6@8 ) 152.163.188.166

what is the most resont treatment today? Is it poible for a human to get rabies? did Pasteur actually infect those rabbits on puprose to experiment on? I read in a book that 2 of his employes held down a "mad dog" and sucked saliva threw a straw! Also he didnt have a microscope good enough too see the bacteria! Please help me with this and I wold love to get a response from you!


your freind and alli
josh bryan aso known as JUICY!


rabbies

This response submitted by Butch Ambrose on 12/13/2002. ( nuttybutch@yahoo.com ) 63.17.95.157

Rabbies
Butch Ambrose
nuttybutch@yahoo.com
Can mice get rabbies? I was told that they could not get it because the brain was to small. Thanks for any assistance.


Rabies

This response submitted by Nate Ligua on 01/19/2003. ( ) 63.30.79.88

My dwarf bunny bit my hand and took off the skin, she's never done this before.
Should I seek medical help the bunny never had shot of any kind. The bunny has never acted hostile before.


Rabies

This response submitted by Nate Ligua on 01/19/2003. ( ) 63.30.79.88

My dwarf bunny bit my hand and took off the skin, she's never done this before.
Should I seek medical help the bunny never had shots of any kind. The bunny has never acted hostile before.


My Cat

This response submitted by Corey on 01/25/2003. ( Aklkck@hotmail.com ) 206.228.212.145

My cat ran off for 2 days came back on the third it was snowing and this is the fourth day ive noticed a bite a huge one on her left leg she limps most of the time and i do not know what bit her its one hole not 2 but im guessing she must have escaped from its grip she met a Tom Cat and went off into the woods but it could be anything maybe she might have got a nail paked into her skin or somthing but i dont think so cause a stick or a nail cant go this deep into flesh somone please e-mail me or post somthing.


I have a question!

This response submitted by Heather on 01/28/2003. ( ) 150.176.68.24

How is rabbies connected to water?


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