What the heck are these larva?

Submitted by Troy on 4/9/02. ( tpeterson@kqcorp.com ) 65.90.54.2

I was in the middle of fleshing a buffalo skin last night. Along the ridge of the back there were a handfull of somekind of larva. Most of them were about 3/4" long and 5/16" diameter. All but two were white. Looked like they were boring in from the outside and leaving a pretty good size hole in the skin. This buffalo was taken from a farm where many other buffalo were kept as well. Any ideas as to what these are or if they would have effected the meat at all?

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Sounds Like the Evil Bott Fly

This response submitted by Tony Finazzo on 4/9/02. ( finazducks@aol.com ) 205.188.208.103

It is common in some areas to have bot fly infestations on some Bovines (cattle) the same things can get under the skin of Buffalo. I would cut out any area that has the Larvae, before butchering. It should not affect the rest of the animal.
Good eating,
Tony


Warbles!

This response submitted by cyclone on 4/9/02. ( ) 129.43.43.200

Not botts! Botts are intestinal larvae, warbles get under the skin. Check with any cattle farmer.
Check out this site it'll answer those questions.

http://www.nwtwildlife.rwed.gov.nt.ca/Publications/diseasepamphletweb/warbles.htm#larvae


Thanks Guys!

This response submitted by Troy on 4/9/02. ( tpeterson@kqcorp.com ) 65.90.54.2

Thanks Cyclone, that's exactly what they are. Only problem is seeing that picture brought back the willeys I had all night. I can't stand maggots and those are some damn big maggots!


Save em!

This response submitted by cyclone on 4/9/02. ( ) 129.43.43.200

Freeze them. They'd make good fishin bait!


Say WHAT, Cyclone

This response submitted by George on 4/9/02. ( georoof@aol.com ) 64.12.96.107

Where I come from, they are one in the same. Botflies can be of the same genus as warble flies and Botfly warbles or "wolves" as we called them can be under the skin OR in a developing whitetail antler. I'm not getting into the etymology of entomology, but practical names in common usage can imply either.


don't eat the meat

This response submitted by mike on 4/10/02. ( ) 66.228.96.98

you might not want to eat the meat be cause it sounds like what you are talking about is skrew worm flies they are dangerouse if you eat meat that looks ok it isn't check with a vet and show them to him WARNING DON'T EAT CAN POSIBILLY KILL YOU


Not where I'm from!

This response submitted by cyclone on 4/10/02. ( ) 129.43.43.200

Apples and oranges Georgie! Both Botts and warbles lay their eggs around the ankles and rumps of livestock.
The animal chews at the area when it itches and ingests the eggs. Botts hatch in the intestines and are crapped
out.

Warbles hatch on the skin and burrow underneath it. They make their way to the infested critters back because that is
the place where their survival is best. Cattle and horses have a hard time scratching their backs. A cycst forms around the larvae
and when "ripe" they pop like a festered zit! The worm hits the ground and is on their way to adulthood.


Regarding the Bott Fly, Can You Advise Me...

This response submitted by Heylen on 6/22/02. ( ) 65.125.94.103

I just found some "flies" that were identified by a Texas Parks & Wildlife Hunter Education Coordinator as being "Bott Flies". They had burrowed up in a sponge mop I had outside. My question... how could they have gotten there? And where could they have originated from in a "modern" neighborhood? No cows, deer, etc. around here. Could it have come from a sore on a dog? My husband said it looked like there "might have been something in the open spot" on his tail (he's an overweight beagle.) I'd appreciate your input/thoughts on this. Also, how do I get them out of my yard? I don't want to put my e-mail address up there. It's heylen@nbtx.com Thanks.


Regarding the Bott Fly, Can You Advise Me...

This response submitted by Heylen on 6/22/02. ( ) 65.125.94.103

I just found some "flies" that were identified by a Texas Parks & Wildlife Hunter Education Coordinator as being "Bott Flies". They had burrowed up in a sponge mop I had outside. My question... how could they have gotten there? And where could they have originated from in a "modern" neighborhood? No cows, deer, etc. around here. Could it have come from a sore on a dog? My husband said it looked like there "might have been something in the open spot" on his tail (he's an overweight beagle.) I'd appreciate your input/thoughts on this. Also, how do I get them out of my yard? I don't want to put my e-mail address up there. It's heylen@nbtx.com Thanks.


eh hem

This response submitted by i on 07/26/2002. ( ) 68.58.32.170

cyclone,
warbles is actually the name of the hole the botfly larvae burrows. "warbles" as you want to call them can burrow into any part of the body. they particulary don't burrow very deep. they are usually layed on the surface of the skin and then they burrow a very small hole in the animal that isn't very deep. the only times that get into the stomach is when they are digested. maybe you ought to check with a veternarian.


Botfly larvae found in my dog

This response submitted by T Thornton on 08/02/2002. ( ) 208.187.120.71

I took my dog (a chihuahua) to the vet to investigate a sore that wouldn't heal. After shaving the area on his side -- we found a small hole, with a little pus, and a small lump below the skin. The vet didn't know what it was and felt she needed to explore surgically. She extracted what she called a botfly larvae. It was still alive. She said she has seen them in rabbits before but never dogs.
After researching on the internet have found that some species of botfly can even infest humans (as claimed by travelers returning from Ecuador and such places). Possible means of extraction included coating opening with vaseline. Larvae then wriggle through vaseline to seek air -- then use tweezers to pull out. Nasty!
Wish I had known that before telling vet to go ahead with $urgery!


found a bott fly in my cat.

This response submitted by cheryl knight on 09/10/2002. ( have none. ) 209.206.183.196

a few days ago, my mother had found a bump on the side of my cats hip. a week later she had "popped" it, and a peachy brown colored worm was in a hole. she pulled it out, and it was still alive. wriggle for its life! it was gross, but i was wondering how did it get on my cat? some one help me please.


my boss got bott fly

This response submitted by anonymous on 10/29/2002. ( ) 167.127.107.11

my boss went to belize and came back with bott fly, he was back a full six weeks before the sores bled and compelled him to seek medical treatment, at first he thought they were no-seeums. since seeking medical attention he has had to go to the hospital and have them surgically removed, ughh.


I got bott fly in belize

This response submitted by josh rabb on 01/08/2003. ( ) 66.233.103.149

does anyone know where i can get a picture of the bott fly i got one in belize on my back


Is an operation recommended?

This response submitted by Edward Parsons on 01/27/2003. ( ) 62.252.32.5

My son returned from Bolivia five weeks ago, with a lump on the back of his neck. Today a maggot emerged, looking as if it was in the pupal stage. The lump still seems 'full', so I expect there are more. Is a surgical operation advised, to remove all remaining maggots/pupae?


Bott fly

This response submitted by MaryAnn on 01/31/2003. ( ) 12.221.157.53

We came back from Belize on Jan 5th, 2003, and a couple weeks later my son realized he had a Bott fly... we were told about them. He used vasoline and duct tape on it for a day, and then pulled the little bugger out with a tweezers. It had little "jaws." Yuck. Locals use a poltice of wet tobacco over the area to force it to come out. Good luck!


I got two bott flies in Belize

This response submitted by Gin on 02/02/2003. ( ) 64.1.2.35

I came back from Belize and Guatemala on Jan. 10th 2003 with what seemed to be two normal mosqito bites. About two weeks later I popped a bott fly larvae out of my back. The next day I went to have the other one in my ankle surgically removed. Pretty gross, but they're out now. I suggest wearing some Deet if traveling down there in the future.


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