Setting bubble eyes

Submitted by Sean S on 06/15/2003. ( ) 209.237.13.100

After receiving everything I need to mount a fisher, including a manual I wanted to set the size 12 bubble eyes that are recommended for this animal. I can find much about how easy they are to use and how great they look, but upon attempting to begin setting them they seem so large that it appears I would have to destroy much of the mannikins facial detail to insert them. I ordered the WASCO mammal tax. manual, but I did not find the specifics to my problem. Any suggestions to my problem would be greatly appreciated. I have a set of dark brown eyes I set to see how they look..they look fine to me, but I would like to know what I am doing wrong with the bubble eyes.

Regards,

Sean

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Sean, are you sure we're talking BUBBLE eyes?

This response submitted by George on 06/15/2003. ( georoof@aol.com ) 152.163.252.193

The bubble eye really doesn't take a lot of "setting" as it's a simple method of drilling a slightly undersized hole (for the sprue) and tapering it at the top so the eye sets naturally. A fisher isn't a large animal by any means, but its not a weasel and I don't understand the comment of having to destroy facial detail to get the job done well.


bubble eyes

This response submitted by Sean on 06/15/2003. ( ) 209.237.13.100

Thanks for the response George. The eyes I purchased are the hand-blown black global bubble eyes sold by Van-Dykes. I purchased the form from V.D. as well. The bubble eyes I recieved are about 2X the diameter of the recessed mannikin sockets meant to receive the eyes. I ordered a size 12 eye which I believe may be wrong size. I believe that I may be using improper terminology when I say 'setting'; Installing may be more appropriate. I installed the bubble eyes in a raccoon mannikin I've had for years just to practice, and I had to use a 1/2 inch (13mm?) drill bit to fit the eyes in the form. This size bit on my fisher would have taken out much of the face.

Thanks for the help,

Sean


Sean

This response submitted by George on 06/15/2003. ( georoof@aol.com ) 64.12.96.136

The 12 sounds about right I guess, but the fishers I've seen are almost raccoon sized IN THE FACE. It almost sounds as if the size you required was on one of their older mannikins.


Sounds like the eyes are too big

This response submitted by Vicki Chritton-Myers 69.19 on 06/16/2003. ( myers.ark@direcway.com ) 69.19.23.67

I very seldom have to enlarge the eye orbit when using bubble eyes. Usually, all I have to do is poke a small hole about the size of the sprue(?) and set the eyes to the depth needed, sometimes having to add a small amount of clay to adjust to the right depth. Add the eye lids clay work where needed, depending on the desired expression.

Hope this helps. =)


Bubble eyes

This response submitted by Sean S on 06/16/2003. ( ) 209.237.13.100

George and Vicki,
Thanks for the responses. I am going to order several sizes of the bubble eyes as well as a pair of concave/convex eyes that fit the orbit of the mannikin and experiment. I don't see a better solution. The eyes I ordered intially are just the wrong size. The fisher I have is much narrower in the face than the raccoons I have ever skinned, but I have no other experience with fishers.

Reagrds,

Sean


Different sized eyes a good idea...

This response submitted by Vicki 69.19 on 06/16/2003. ( ) 69.19.16.1

You are welcome!

I forgot to add that to my posting above. I usually order another set of eyes that is smaller than the one recommended in the catalog (unless I already have a pair that size). It's a good idea to have extra eyes on hand, in case you break some, too.


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