Formalin injection before freeze-drying

Submitted by Dean Smith on 05/18/2004 at 20:10. ( ) 136.154.22.60

Basicly I need to know if formalin will still out-gas or still be a hazard to health after it has been through the freeze-drying process.
The Museum Victoria (Australia) has an extensive program using mounts as educational aids. we have found that the f'dried mounts hold up the best with all the handling by the public. We have experimented with injecting formalin into mounts before freezing and found it clearly inhibits bug attack and minimises shrinkage. but I do not want to expose anyone to formalin if it is still considered a risk after this process.

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Haven't noticed

This response submitted by Hip-O Taxidermy on 05/18/2004 at 20:28. ( hipo@direcway.com ) 66.82.9.30

I haven't noticed any ill effects, but only started experimenting with using formalin in freeze dried mounts about 6 months ago in some personal stuff, haven't tried any on customers mounts as of yet.


hmmm

This response submitted by Bill Yox on 05/18/2004 at 22:26. ( ) 209.130.219.151

I dont have the answer, but I have to ask...are you guys sure that the formalin even can be stabilized in the FD process?


hmmm

This response submitted by Bill Yox on 05/18/2004 at 22:26. ( ) 209.130.219.151

I dont have the answer, but I have to ask...are you guys sure that the formalin even can be stabilized in the FD process?


formalin

This response submitted by Tony Finazzo on 05/19/2004 at 00:27. ( finazducks@aol.com ) 198.81.26.44

Formaldehyde is a gas suspended in a liquid ( water) when exposed to air it tries to return to a gaseous state. Formalin is a dilute form of Formaldehyde I'm not sure how long it takes, but it does dissipate eventually.
Tony


Formalin or Formaldehyde is a carcinogen!

This response submitted by Bruce Rittel on 05/19/2004 at 02:14. ( rittel@mindspring.com ) 207.69.137.23

One of the reasons it isnt acceptable here in the USA is because it's considered a carcinogen (Cancer causing)! It's also why we have developed our product "Preservz-It" because although its also an aldehyde based product - but it doesnt cause cancer. I would advise you to consider an alternative, such as Preservz-It for future use. Simply as a matter of safety for your curators that prepare the skins. If you need more information - please contact me! This product is used the same way as Formalin or Formaldehyde - but has none of the side-effects! We also have a Distributor in Australia.


Preserve it

This response submitted by Hip-O Taxidermy on 05/19/2004 at 09:59. ( hipo@direcway.com ) 66.82.9.47

Have some snakes in the freeze dryer now that were injected with preservz-it. Looking forward to seeing how they come out, this is my first attempt with the preservz it, so have no idea yet how they'll dry.
Have a good one
Don


ok

This response submitted by Bill Yox on 05/19/2004 at 16:21. ( ) 209.130.132.30

Thanks Tony, I wondered about that.


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