Hi there...

Submitted by robin h on 11/11/04 at 3:35 AM. ( robinheinen@hotmail.com ) 217.103.136.224

hi there, my name is robin and I live in Holland. I have a few questions for the specialists. I'd like to prepare snake skins and skeletons for a hobby(I've got a collection of snakes for myself too). Well my first quostion is: Where do you get your dead snake to work on? I've got some snakes myself, but I'm not planning to kill them ;)

second question: is there an European company that delivers tanning kits, i guess importing stuff overseas from the USA will cost me a lot of extra money(?)

Do you guys have some pictures of your work? It is very beautiful to watch another's work

thank you guys very much

Robin H, Holland

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Hello

This response submitted by Laurie on 11/11/04 at 5:12 AM. ( ) 62.253.248.93

Robin,

There are various suppliers of Taxiderny items in the UK but the best supplier I think is: http://www.lornesupplies.co.uk/. If you speak to the owners they will be able to advise on shipment. Have you looked for any SUppliers in Holland or the surrounding area?

Kindest regards


well

This response submitted by robin on 11/11/04 at 5:52 AM. ( ) 217.103.136.224

Thanks for your answer, I have looked for suppliers in Holland on the internet, but I can't find any Dutch suppliers, I will visit the website you gave me, thanks for that.

I also visit many reptile fora (in Dutch) so maybe I can get some snake species over there, but I'm affraid that they will not give their dead pets to me, most people bury them or throw them away I guess.

This forum seems to give a lot of information about tanning and preparing anymals, do you have any suggestions for good information sites for skeleton preparation?

thank you very much

Robin


Zoos

This response submitted by Laurie on 11/11/04 at 7:07 AM. ( ) 62.253.248.93

Robin,

You might be able to buy snake bodies from zoos or large collectors but these of course will cost. Have you spoken to your local pet shops, you might be able to get carcesses from them. You don;t know until you ask.

You might be able to get a video on it but I think that the best solution is to go on a training course. I started off with a two day course and since then I have also been to a taxidermist conference - this was really helpful. Do you have a Guild in Europe? Personally I don't know.

Kindest regards


yes, there are different guilds

This response submitted by robin on 11/11/04 at 8:20 AM. ( ) 83.118.113.98

there's one in england(that's not really my neighbourhood :D,) but I don't think that's something useful for me, I found some taxydermists in Holland on the internet too. I know an amateur skeleton preparator from Belgium, but I haven't spoken to him lately :(, he could give me some good advice, but I don't know anything about him(he was a member of a Dutch forum, but I guess he signed off)

In Holland seems to be a preparation guild, but you have to do some exams before you will be accepted, as I don't have much experience, I won't even try.

There are some troubles with laws too, I don't know exactly if it is permitted to prepare the skeletons of CITES A animals, like the red eared slider(T.s. elegans) or the madagascar ground boa( Acrantophis dumerilli) I found a Dutch website of an amateur too(in dutch, but some nice photographs: http://schedel.fol.nl/) he doesn't have any licenses, but it's not exactly clear which animals I can legally use. I will send him an e-mail today, and I will ask him, he will surely know :)

thanks

robin


CITES

This response submitted by Laurie on 11/11/04 at 10:20 AM. ( laurence@dowson.abelgratis.co.uk ) 62.253.248.93

Robin,

There is quite alot of unclear information regarding the article 10 specimens. In the UK, this is governed by DEFRA but in Europe I am not too sure. It is possible to download the information but if you send me an e-mail, I will send the link to you and also a list of the animals covered.

I hope that this is of help

Kindest regards


PS

This response submitted by Laurie on 11/11/04 at 10:24 AM. ( ) 62.253.248.93

Robin,

Try reading this document produced for the British, it should help clarify the situation.

http://www.ukcites.gov.uk/license/GN10_Taxidermists_May04rev.doc

Kindest regards


thanks laurie

This response submitted by robin on 11/12/04 at 3:34 AM. ( ) 217.103.136.224

Thanks for the information Laurie

I will read it and i hope it will be clear to me ;)

Robin


Help

This response submitted by Cindy on 12/14/04 at 7:55 PM. ( cindy6043 @aol.com ) 152.163.100.69

Can you tell me how to make a tand deer hide soft after it has dryed out


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