Hair Slippage Using Saftee Acid - What Did I Do Wrong?

Submitted by P. Bumgardner on 1/15/01. ( BummyP@msn.com ) 63.17.222.111

I was dry preserving hides, wanted to switch to tanning. The hide I used was my own so I know it was taken care of properly. I salted it for 24 hours and then fleshed it and split the eye lids and the lips. I mixed 2 gallons of water with 2lbs of salt and 1 oz. of Saftee Acid. I soaked the hide in the solution for 6 hours. I then removed the hide, neutrilized it in 2 gallons of water with 2 oz of baking soda. I then towel dryed the hair side and the flesh side, then I painted the hide with Rittel's Kwik & Easy Tanning Solution for 4 hours. I then removed the hide and mounted it. When adjusting the ears a small piece of hide, about the size of a pencil eraser, came off around the ear butt. A friend of mine also claims he had the same problem with hair slippage around the eyes. What did I do wrong? How can I correct the problem?

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For one thinf

This response submitted by Dave Toms on 1/15/01. ( ) 208.178.217.218

you should leave the hide in the pickle for at least 36 hours. I also completely dry the hide with salt before I pickle. I then use an immersion tan (ez 100) and then oil. I would call Mr. Rittle and see what he thinks.

Dave


Yep...

This response submitted by Rip on 1/15/01. ( ) 63.28.148.182

Like most people I always pickle several capes at a time. I won't start working them for at least 36 hours. This safetee acid is great stuff but it won't work in 6 hours. I don't know how long Mr. Rittle recommends but I have left capes in it over a month with the Ph maintained with no problems. Give it about 3 days and you should have no problems

Good luck


You should have split the lips and fleshed it before salting

This response submitted by John C on 1/15/01. ( ) 208.44.115.22

Always split out and flesh before salting.

Do you know why? For probper salt penatration, it has to draw out the moisture for the acid to work.

Once dehydrated for a few days the cells work like a sponge and suck up the acid. This swells the hide for shaving, then acid again always have your acid at a pH of 1.5-2.0 dont mix by the instructions you water may be more alkaline than mine so yu will have a higher pH.

Sorry but I feel its the way you handled the hide.

Sure dp works for some but, I could never justify its use as a everyday remedy for not tanning. There is a place for it.

Look thru the tanning archives read reread them. None say to salt anything before splitting and fleshing. JOhn C


Pickling

This response submitted by Dave at VanDyke's Taxidermy Supply Co. on 1/16/01. ( dave.belanger@cabelas.com ) 208.141.229.5

Bummy,

I would totaly agree with the advice you received.
I have to tell you that a 2 gl. mix for your pickle is not nearly enough to pickle a deer hide.You dont want the cape to be restricted in any way and you want total submersion if at all possible.
If you restrict a cape its possible that the salt and acid cannot penetrate especialy if you have skin touching skin and you have the skin too condenced.I would go with a 7-10 gal. mix, allowing the cape to freee float.Agitate the cape in the pickling solution every now and again, making sure that all is getting exposed.

Allow the cape to pickle for 48 hours. Shave and finish any fleshing you may have. Return to the pickle for another 24 hours to allow the pickle to penetrate the areas that you have freshly shaven. Remove and neutrilize.

Whatever product you may use for pickling or tanning, they will usually come with instructions. Follow them to the fullest for you best results.

Feel free to give me a call any time if you get hung up.(1-800)843-3320 ext 105 or e-mail me at my address.

Have a good day all,
Dave>vanDyke's


splitting the lips

This response submitted by stephanie hammond on 2/25/01. ( chuckkaa@aol.com ) 152.163.188.38

i am learning to tan. I was told to split the lip. how do i do that?


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