Moldy Pickle

Submitted by Wade on 6/16/01. ( Rhino223 ) 144.232.200.106

I mixed a big batch of safty acid and pickled some deer capes. They turned out fine. I looked in the barrel yesterday and found mold growing on the top. I haven't checked the ph as I am sure it is more than the two it should be. My question is this. Can this pickle be salvaged by bringing the ph back down or do I have to waste it. Thanks for your help.
Wade

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Moldy

This response submitted by Marc R on 6/16/01. ( CapeFearTaxidrmy@aol.com ) 152.163.188.195

I'm no Bruce Rittel, but I recommend dumping it. Especially since your using Saftee-Acid, this product is economical enough to mix a fresh batch, so why even risk it? Just my $.02. Marc R


Dump it!

This response submitted by John C on 6/16/01. ( ) 208.44.115.54

I also have some pickle, this same batch has hides in it for over two years. It is formic acid, NO FRICKING MOLD! Nada, none, silch, this is why I will never use saftey acid of citric acid. Just my $.02 worth, learned the hard way.


Mold

This response submitted by Len on 6/16/01. ( ) 216.114.21.39

I have had mold in my Saftey-Acid and it has only showed up when I have not stirred solution on a regular basis with no hides in the acid bath. Even though it may not be recommended, I have sucessfully tanned deer hides with the same solution buy skimming off the mold, checking the ph level and salt mixture, and only adding a new #1 gal. batch to the old solution. I have not had any problems with slippage.


formic acid...gotta luv it

This response submitted by kato on 6/16/01. ( knmiller@nwlink.com ) 66.43.8.21

I worked for about a year at a major fur tannery and learned
tanning from one of the absolute best in the industry. We al-
ways used formic acid with no molding or holding problems.kept indefinatly. swelled up really plump.I recently have tried saftee acid and had the mold problem within 2 weeks. Didnt plump worth a damn and didnt get that nice blue color when shaved. Needless to say i am looking for a supplier of formic acid in oregon or s.w. washington. Anybody knows of one let me know please!


Mold isn't too particular!

This response submitted by Bruce Rittel on 6/17/01. ( rittel@ici.net ) 207.180.0.8

If you have a pickle and mold begins to grow on its surface - your best option is to pour it off, rinse your skins, and place them in a new pickle. I have removed the mold from pickles that werent stirred, and then added a fungicide, but I prefer the peace of mind that no mold is present. Mold is not very discriminating either. I have pickled using Saftee, Oxalic, Formic, Citric and Acetic acids, and left unstirred for long periods after they were used - they ALL grew mold! A lot has to do with the humidity level of your shop as to how fast it will occur, but stirring the pickle regularly, usually prevents it. I keep skins and capes constantly in the different pickles, including Saftee Acid, sometimes for up to 8-10 months waiting to use them for testing, so this is something I am familiar with. Mold is usually introduced to the pickle by being air-borne, and depositing on its surface. Left undisturbed, it naturally multiplies until it becomes large enough to be visable. Regular stirring will prevent this.


Bleach

This response submitted by Dave on 6/17/01. ( stufer856@aol.com ) 64.12.96.235

I put 3/4oz of bleach per 5gal of acid mix, seems to work grate and it don't do anything to the hair. I use formic and have still had mold on occasion But that stopped with the use of the small amount of bleach.


Bleach is a base !

This response submitted by CHUCK on 6/18/01. ( Chuckcnctaxi@aol.com ) 205.188.208.105

I'm no Rittel or a chemist by any means .I do however remember that in high school chem labs we found out (unless modern chemistry has changed in 18 yrs)that bleach is a BASIC (higher than 7 pH)compound.Why in the world would you add a base to an acid(less than 7 pH),it would only screw up your pH.


Go back to high school

This response submitted by Dave on 6/21/01. ( stufer856@aol.com ) 64.12.96.235

Yes The P.H on bleach is 8 soooo? As I said I use 3/4 of an oz per 5gal of acid solution do you really Think this would (screw up} you acid solution? In no way does this amount have any effect on the P.H, Water is 7. Next time don't skip the math class....... :)


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