one of my friends says he only defleshes the skin, salts it for 5 days, and then it's done I find this hard to beleive but i havn't seen any of the skins. what do you all think?
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I HAVE NO THOUGHTS. ?
define " done " . done with the salting ? I would say yes .
I look farward to a pro answering this. If a hide is dehydrated without turning blue or sluffing then what will happen? Will it just deteriorate over the years? The bacteria is what hurts right, and they can't live if it is bone dry.
If not maybe just pickle it, I think Yox said one time that the tan replaces what was lost during the pickle, and the pickle gets rid of the bad proteins that bacteria feed on as well as the bacteria. What happens if that void isn't filled with a tanning agent?
Just for the record mine are thoroughly fleshed salted pickled and tanned :-)
Even DP is better than what he is doing!
Where do you beginners find these Awefull unskilled people?
That would make a good meal for the bugs, eventually.
jerkey...nothing more, probably less...even jerkey contains nitrates and nitrites to help preserve it by killing bacteria. Oh, and salt loves water, it's hygroscopic, in fact and will constantly attract and lose water with humidity changes. However, this a good way to preserve hides for later rehydration and tanning.
The pickling process removes the untannable proteins from the hide and preps the tannable proteins for reacting with the tan. On a molecular scale, the tanning process crosslinks the remaining proteins within the skin. The oiling process then "fills the voids" so to speak and helps with the softening or breaking process...I'm not sure what the "sulfonated" part of the oils do yet but I'm researching that as well. I'm sure that Bruce can shed some more light on that..
There's a fantastic multi-part article in some of the older Breakthrough Magazines that all of us that ever attempt tanning should read. I'll have to dig them out when I get home. Perhaps they have reprints available.
But Glen Conley has contaminated my thinking with microscopic pictures that paint an entirely different story. In fact, the pictures have debunked a lot of thoughts and tended to support the theories I've always held about the definitions of "pickle" and "tan". He needs to 'splain this in greater detail than I'm capable of.
I've had some salted/dried hides for several years. Nothing has happened to them. The bugs have left them alone. The hair is still tight. Don't know what will happen if/when I decide to tan them. Will find out one of these days...
"De-fleshing" like "Un-thawing"? LMAO!
I know I'm a little out of date but what's changed?
I NEED HLEP I HAVE NO CLOTHES I NEED TANNING HIDES FOR CLOTH I RUN AROUND NAKED ALL THE TIME PLZ HELP ME I AM AT A LIBRAY WITH NO CLOTHES ON PLZ HELP ME FIND CLOTHES OK PLZ
LOV YAH FOR WHOEVDER HELPS ME erin
Where can you go to get that info?
Traditionally we feel better tanning. I of course enjoy the feel of the skin and how it will perform, so Im set in my way personally. But the argument can be made that some real scary shortcuts, while not "officially" tanned, etc, still could be deemed "stabilized" and thus mountable. I wouldnt, but thats just me. I also enjoy listening to Glen Conley and his opinions and alternative methods.