would this actually work!

Submitted by jason parker on 02/26/2004 at 00:05. ( ) 68.13.98.118

one of my friends says he only defleshes the skin, salts it for 5 days, and then it's done I find this hard to beleive but i havn't seen any of the skins. what do you all think?
thanks

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This response submitted by eric on 02/26/2004 at 00:11. ( beartrapman@webtv.net ) 216.114.124.121

I HAVE NO THOUGHTS. ?


jason

This response submitted by b bishop on 02/26/2004 at 00:12. ( ) 65.73.67.193

define " done " . done with the salting ? I would say yes .


I have thought about that too

This response submitted by Griz on 02/26/2004 at 00:14. ( ) 69.66.85.111

I look farward to a pro answering this. If a hide is dehydrated without turning blue or sluffing then what will happen? Will it just deteriorate over the years? The bacteria is what hurts right, and they can't live if it is bone dry.

If not maybe just pickle it, I think Yox said one time that the tan replaces what was lost during the pickle, and the pickle gets rid of the bad proteins that bacteria feed on as well as the bacteria. What happens if that void isn't filled with a tanning agent?

Just for the record mine are thoroughly fleshed salted pickled and tanned :-)


Its done with the salting, but far from tanning

This response submitted by John C on 02/26/2004 at 00:43. ( ) 66.233.157.155

Even DP is better than what he is doing!

Where do you beginners find these Awefull unskilled people?


Not good

This response submitted by Joe on 02/26/2004 at 02:12. ( ) 205.188.209.72

That would make a good meal for the bugs, eventually.


You've basically made

This response submitted by cyclone on 02/26/2004 at 08:06. ( ) 129.43.43.200

jerkey...nothing more, probably less...even jerkey contains nitrates and nitrites to help preserve it by killing bacteria. Oh, and salt loves water, it's hygroscopic, in fact and will constantly attract and lose water with humidity changes. However, this a good way to preserve hides for later rehydration and tanning.

The pickling process removes the untannable proteins from the hide and preps the tannable proteins for reacting with the tan. On a molecular scale, the tanning process crosslinks the remaining proteins within the skin. The oiling process then "fills the voids" so to speak and helps with the softening or breaking process...I'm not sure what the "sulfonated" part of the oils do yet but I'm researching that as well. I'm sure that Bruce can shed some more light on that..

There's a fantastic multi-part article in some of the older Breakthrough Magazines that all of us that ever attempt tanning should read. I'll have to dig them out when I get home. Perhaps they have reprints available.


Cyclone, you know that's what I thought for years

This response submitted by George on 02/26/2004 at 08:19. ( georoof@aol.com ) 205.188.209.72

But Glen Conley has contaminated my thinking with microscopic pictures that paint an entirely different story. In fact, the pictures have debunked a lot of thoughts and tended to support the theories I've always held about the definitions of "pickle" and "tan". He needs to 'splain this in greater detail than I'm capable of.


An observation

This response submitted by Vicki Chritton-Myers on 02/26/2004 at 09:18. ( ) 66.82.9.44

I've had some salted/dried hides for several years. Nothing has happened to them. The bugs have left them alone. The hair is still tight. Don't know what will happen if/when I decide to tan them. Will find out one of these days...


Is...

This response submitted by marty on 02/26/2004 at 09:31. ( ) 67.173.51.16

"De-fleshing" like "Un-thawing"? LMAO!


What part George?

This response submitted by cyclone on 02/26/2004 at 09:32. ( ) 129.43.43.200

I know I'm a little out of date but what's changed?


HELP ME

This response submitted by ERIN MONGOO on 02/26/2004 at 12:29. ( UGLYERIN@HOTMAIL.COM ) 142.26.134.173

I NEED HLEP I HAVE NO CLOTHES I NEED TANNING HIDES FOR CLOTH I RUN AROUND NAKED ALL THE TIME PLZ HELP ME I AM AT A LIBRAY WITH NO CLOTHES ON PLZ HELP ME FIND CLOTHES OK PLZ
PLZPLZ
PLZ
PLZ
LOV YAH FOR WHOEVDER HELPS ME erin


George....

This response submitted by os on 02/26/2004 at 20:27. ( ) 207.69.8.124

Where can you go to get that info?


its a tough call

This response submitted by Bill Yox on 02/27/2004 at 01:53. ( ) 209.130.220.137

Traditionally we feel better tanning. I of course enjoy the feel of the skin and how it will perform, so Im set in my way personally. But the argument can be made that some real scary shortcuts, while not "officially" tanned, etc, still could be deemed "stabilized" and thus mountable. I wouldnt, but thats just me. I also enjoy listening to Glen Conley and his opinions and alternative methods.


Refer your friend to this site. He needs it more than you!

This response submitted by Hogger on 03/02/2004 at 04:39. ( ) 4.7.211.157

nuts!


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