Cost of formic acid pickling ......$7.56 per cape

Submitted by Ken on 1/17/05 at 6:04 AM. ( taxiken1@cs.com ) 205.188.116.132

I mixed up a 20 gallon formic(90%)acid pickle, one ounce per gallon. No problem. I am running 5 whitetail capes through it. I am about to do the second shaving. I made the pickle about 10-12 days ago. So far I have used the original 20 ounces of acid, added another approximate 20 ounces, had to order another gallon, and have used approximately 40 ounces of my new gallon, for a total of 80 ounces used thus far. I will probably have to add more acid today to maintain a 2.0 PH. I was under the impression that formic acid pickeling was inexpensive. I paid $33.00 for the acid, a $20.00 hazard charge, and $7.00 shipping. Let's see, 63% of $60.00 =$37.80. Divided by 5 =$7.56 per cape. OUCH! I am using county water and have not added more water and I did add 20 pounds of salt to solution. Is it normal to use this much formic acid for 5 capes?

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Acid

This response submitted by Bill Haynes on 1/17/05 at 9:04 AM. ( ) 66.216.217.11

Sounds to me like you are using way too much acid. I only use 10cc
per 4 gal . You can actually pickle without acid. Just use salt and Pretan 110.I know 2 guys in my area that do 2-3 hundred heads a year, and never use acid unless the cape is close to slipping.


I was reading the archives a few weeks back

This response submitted by &&& on 1/17/05 at 1:36 PM. ( ) 70.178.74.104

Sounds like you have hard water, or used borax on your capes.


Like Formic...

This response submitted by CapeFear on 1/17/05 at 4:47 PM. ( cftaxidermy.alltel.net ) 151.213.99.93

....but have been using Bruce's Safety Acid ever since I tried it. I mix a 30 gallon pickle, and very rarely do I have to add more to keep it right, and I maintain a PH between 1 and 1.5 no problems. You may have other issues like previously mentioned regarding your waters chemistry, but I don't know. Marc R


Hello Bill Haynes............ and ............

This response submitted by ken on 1/17/05 at 8:39 PM. ( taxiken1@cs.com ) 152.163.100.130

Hi Bill, Kenneth Wheeler here. Maybe it is the water because I didn't use any borax on the skin. I have used safety acid and tok very little to maintain PH, but I don't think itplumps quite as well. Bill, you use formic don't you?


hmmm

This response submitted by Bill Yox on 1/17/05 at 11:40 PM. ( ) 66.133.134.117

Whats the container made out of?


Bill Yox............Plastic

This response submitted by Ken on 1/18/05 at 4:46 AM. ( taxiken1@cs.com ) 205.188.116.130

30 gallon plastic garbage can.


Hmmm

This response submitted by Bill Yox on 1/18/05 at 4:35 PM. ( ) 67.138.9.176

I dont think Ive ever had to even top off formic, no less go through that much. Even safety acid, which you do have to top off, is only once, then its good. Boy Id get a hold of Bruce Rittel and explore that one. I honestly dont know. I know it doesnt sound correct, though. Let us know!


Something's wrong!

This response submitted by Bruce Rittel on 1/19/05 at 12:55 AM. ( rittel@mindspring.com ) 207.69.136.203

Something is wrong! Normally a 90% Formic Acid pickle requires 20 fluid ounces to bring the PH down to 2.2-2.5 for a 20 gallon pickle. Since Formic Acid has a habit of "bottoming" - adding more acid will simply not make it go further down. You could add 1 Gallon more of it and it wont go lower than 2.2 PH.

Check your PH papers! They could be contaminated and not reading properly. Or do you use a PH Meter? If so, recalibrate it. If no Borax is involved - then it has to be "how" you measure the PH.

for more info or ideas - e-mail me. Rittel@mindspring.com


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