stop-rot and salt

Submitted by RAS on 8/22/06 at 1:06 PM. ( ) 66.192.117.66

doing a backpack hunt into Wyoming National Forest; will be out a week. if successful is treating cape with Stop-Rot and then salting a good way to go as far as field care?
will cape be ok for several days until we can get back to truck?

used orange button but evidently didn't come up with correct "key word(s)

thanks

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no salt

This response submitted by Mr.T on 8/22/06 at 1:30 PM. ( ) 68.79.167.32

Stop rot fur side, and the flesh side, and then get it to a freezer or cooler. Placing it in a plastic bag will cause it to drain and pool blood in the bottom of the bag, and you do not want the cape to lie in any liquid of any sort. Salt needs to get to the skin, if you have flesh and meat left on the skin, the salt will not penetrate.
Salt is used on the skin side to remove the body juices after it is fleshed, just before the pickle process. You can use salt to dry out the hide completely over a few days with fresh layers of salt daily, after it has been fleshed clean. However, it is best to get it cooled down as fast as you can. Run it to town with your meat and rent a freezer until you go home.


RAS,

This response submitted by Glen Conley on 8/22/06 at 2:13 PM. ( g.conley@verizon.net ) 70.106.136.52

Mr. T's reply appears more opinionated than factual. You don't need to get it in to a freezer or cooler, that's BS, once STOP-ROT treated and the flesh side is left open to the air, it will air dry before it will rot. Rehydration has been known to take care of air dried skin.

STOP-ROT is a liquid, I don't even want to speculate as to how long a skin would last if it were left in a pool of STOP-ROT, but I can tell you know, it would be a long time.

Once STOP-ROT treated, a skin will drain and dry quicker than normal with a salt treatment. By normal, I mean what could be done with salt alone without the assist.

STOP-ROT was carried and used on elk out of the west, and then to Ohio, and bears out of Canada to Ohio with no other treatment BEFORE it was made available to the public. And this was done successfully. The elk were commercially tannery tanned, and the bears were done in-house.

Now as a matter of record, when I was on the STOP-ROT project I was also working on another to develope a "salt free hunting trip" product. I was working on two different ends of the spectrum and realized that one product could conceivably do it all. This resulted in the STOP-ROT product as it is today.

Also for the record. There have been taxidermists using nothing but STOP-ROT and no other forms of tanning/preservative on animals up to and including the size of a whitetail deer shoulder mount, and that was from the time it first hit the market.

There are a number of actual, factual STOP-ROT articles on hidetanning.net. This has probably been the most documented product in taxidermy history.

One of the most extreme articles is the one by Paul Eymard and his hurricane Katrina experience. Suggested reading.


disregard

This response submitted by Mr.T on 8/22/06 at 2:45 PM. ( ) 68.79.167.32

please disregard everything I wrote behind the words, Stop rot fur side, and the flesh side. the rest is just, bs.


Thanks for the info Uncle Glen

This response submitted by Doug Bridges on 8/22/06 at 4:36 PM. ( ) 12.40.253.154

I was giving a seminar at Bass Pro up here in MI this weekend and was telling the attendees about your product. I was selling it to work just like you have said it would. Just glad I wasent telling half truths. That's some good stuff you have come up with.

Doug


Why thank you, my Deer Nephew Doug.

This response submitted by Glen on 8/23/06 at 8:39 AM. ( ) 70.106.136.52

I wish I had known you were going to do that, I would have loved to have been able to send yer Cuzzin T to sit in. I would have liked to have sat in so I can see how you educate hunters. I seem to get the ones that don't even know how to field dress, let alone cape out. That has been the big marketing obstacle as far as putting it on the shelves for hunters. The taxidermy community for all practical purposes has been zero problems in comprehension and application, but my personal experience at this point has been that hunters as a whole (remember license+weapon+luck can = successful hunter)can be inclined to be too "general populace".


Well Unc

This response submitted by Doug on 8/23/06 at 8:50 AM. ( ) 12.40.253.105

You didn't miss much. Mr. T was invited, but he is laid up due to a bad back. OUCH! Get well T.

I see this as a big opportunity for the generals publics out there. We (the taxidermies of the world) need to work with our customers and offer some training. They need to have the learnin for the proper capin and field carein of the games they kills. I has a few from that seminary that I gived that want to sign up and pay me for a trainin class. I stinks if I had a box of the rot stop and a seminary, I could sell a bunch of it.

You can buzz me up to talk about that.

Doug


Nephew,

This response submitted by Glen on 8/23/06 at 12:55 PM. ( ) 70.106.136.52

I can hear yer mental gears turning like a well erled muh sheen clear down here. If you are thinking what I think you are thinking, that proves that great minds do run in circles...I run like I got a foot nailed to the floor.

Use my toll free 1-866-849-9198, and tell that fancy little talkin' muh sheen what hours you will be available at what number.


BIG THANKS

This response submitted by RAS on 8/23/06 at 4:16 PM. ( ) 66.192.117.66

THANK YOU VERY MUCH for all of the input. now all we have to do is kill some mule deer.

thanks again


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