we just got done getting all the fat off and whent to degreese it , and its slipping in spots. i put it in a salt brine with a whole bottle of lysol , will that work
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Why on earth would you add Lysol to the mix? For whatever reason, it's likely to make your situation worse. In fact, I don't even know what the salt brine was supposed to be for. In order to tan a hide, you salt it down with regular salt. No water, no Lysol, no nothing. Just salt. Once it stops dripping, you submerge it into an acid pickle of 2.0 pH or lower OR send it to a tannery. You are likely to end up with a big piece of rawhide.
The damage is already done, as George said. They require freezing shortly after skinning, if your not going to salt immediately. Next time salt after skinning, wait one hour, then flesh, then re-salt. The first salting, before fleshing, will help head off slippage at the pass. At your stage of the game, you might just throw it straight into pickle, and hope for the best.
I assumed you added the lysol to kill any bacteria that may have caused the slip, not a bad thought, your not the pariah that George Roof Blown Off in a Storm might have you believe. I agree 100% with Old Shave. Best to Through in the pickle and hope a Tanner will accept it that way.
Whatever in the world you're TRYING to imply is as outdated as most of the ideas you've come up with here (like naphtha for cleaning birds). Lysol is a "disinfectant" like regular soap is and since (listen close now)SOAP IS ALKALI, the alkali actually encourages the hair to slip or fall out. I would just hope I can always find any information you try to give others so that they don't blow themselves or their families up or ruin something because you don't have a clue as to what you're doing.
I'm sure Shawn knows enough to hear another opinion on this forum. And then make up his own mind. It is not just the George Roof Blown Off in a Storm forum. And other ideas are here for people to see and make up their own minds. You may think you're clever. Saying my fumed brain and such. But listen closley to what shawn says. the cow hide is slipping in SPOTS. IT WAS SLIPPING IN SPOTS BEFORE HE ADDED THE LYSOL.] alkali will usually cause a more general all over slip. But when the hide is slipping in spots, it more often is bacteria. As bacteria will grow outward that way, so shawn was on the right thinking path and came here for a little factual help and encouragement. good luck to you shawn.
and a pox to you George Roof Blown Off in a Storm!
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Don't you have any tires to change or something? Shawn said the cow hide was indeed, slipping in spots. It certainly WAS bacteria that did that, but the bacteria was already present. Contrary to your understanding and belief, Lysol IS NOT A BACTERIACIDE but is simply an alkali. COW HIDES ARE VERY FRAGILE because of the heat they generate within the skin after skinning. They need to be salted immediately when removed. NEVER ENTERED INTO A BRINE as water being present only increases the odds of bacteria multiplying. To pour a full bottle of Lysol into the watery brine most likely finished that hide off. There are a couple other guys just like you who come on here acting as if you're God's gift to taxidermy with ideas that ruin beginners and can dim their desires simply because just by listening to YOU they can destroy items that they've spent a lot of time on. Your ideas are not only outdated, they're dangerous in many cases. I'm as old or older than you so I can only assume you crawled into a hole in the 1960's and pulled the lid in behind you. The whole world has changed and for better or worse, it's what we have to deal with. Your inability to accept the fact that you're wrong is the cause of all your problems to begin with. When's the last time you dumped a fresh raw cowhide into a salt brine and it didn't slip?
NO WAY! sorry Georgey..your wrong about lysol. it is a good germ killer.
and hides that are to be tanned are often placed in a brine. to draw out the blood and excess grease before the pickle.
an hour or so in a salt brine at 6 ph or so. will not be enough to cause any slip. and in FACT, WILL, help the pickle process perform to its best ability.
and a good pickle results in a superior tan.
George Roof Blown Off. why don't you go to a real tanner and maybe you'd learn something.
for getting off on a George Bashing.
The formula i have had great luck using is 1 fluid oz. lysol to every 5 gals of salt brine.
place hide in this for 1-2 hours
this is great for removing excess blood grease etc.
it sets a patern for the rest of the tanning process. and does a great cleaning.
remove, and rinse well 2 or 3 times. drip dry for about 15 minutes, then place in the pickle of your choice.
add enzyme to the pickle.
Commercial processors ship "wet salted" cowhides all the time.
It's not advisable for a small timer taxidermist but for someone shipping a 40ft container load an hour who has the equipment and wherewithal, it's feasible.
What I am saying is, it is not strictly 'against the rules' to put an unpickled, fresh cowhide in a salt brine.
Are also shipped in the same fashion as the cow hide, a salt brine solution. The use of a germicide in small quantity will be beneficial. I am not sure how much Lysol will work in that amount, but there are bacteriacides available from places like Buckman Laboratories that do the job. Usually strong enough to use 1 oz. per 100 gallons. These type of bacteriacides are just added precaution since a pH of 2.0 or below will generally be enough to stop any bacteria action. The main factor is to get the pH down as quickly as possible with a suspect or problem hide losing hair. A whole bottle of Lysol sounds like you should be checking the pH immediately and get that bad boy back down below 3.0 at least!