Deer- Clover plots?

Harley, I just did the math...I can buy roundup or similar from local stores for I think $40 per qt, and thats just about what that costs shipped. Unless Im way off on roundup prices?

 

That stuff has the surfactant already added and I didn't think about shi;ping I always forget they don't have Rural Kings everywhere. Tell Psycho to tell his client to put a store in up near you LOL I can pick it up in the store in smaller quanities for $20 a gallon.

 

wait a min how much was shipping? WITHOUT Shipping it's roughly $2. 50 a quart at that price. I don't see shipping adding $38 a quart to the price.

 

Bill,
We get ours from a seed dealer $300 per 30 gallon drum thats a winter price cause we buy ours way in advance, but prices could change by region i guess? I hav'nt priced smaller amounts out yet this year. I always add extra surfactant. I have had times where its callin for good weather and a rain pops up it makes you sick on the stomach. So its Good insurance. But im thinkin bout more acres too. $40 dollars a quart? its a typo LoL A gallon probably. But shipping chemicals too!! As for the pre-emergence i use another chemical and put that in my mix at the same time i put glypho on. Im sure there are commercial applicators in your areas that could help you find the generics and a good price. Everyone is so far away from me or i would hook you guys up! I would have bush hogged that briar patch for free to save buckmaster from the pruners. Broadleaf crops of that sort we dont usually touch with spray after its all said and done , my pap likes to do everything 1940 style. So we keep it as simple as possible.

Buckmaster- when you use these products wear a qualified mask and something to protect your skin. Glypho is a pretty safe product considering...its still a chemical. Good project though and i would like to see how it turns out. You will learn alot. Then you will have the wisdom to plant a big fat garden! Grow some mators,taters

I am to be taking a class on nutrient management soon so i can write nutrient management plans. Im not sure if anyone in your regions are required to have a plan as of yet. Good luck to everyone and i'll be around if anyone has any farming questions. And Yes, i shower daily so dont worry about that one My grandpap dont. LMAO He is an onion in the summer

 

Wow, the shipping for the glypho would buy some goose decoys.

 

I plant turnips here in Wisconsin, in early September, it does not take long for them to grow, if you plant them to early the deer have them all ate by deer season.
They really dig for them in the snow to. Works good for me.

 

I've been planting small food plots for awhile and have always used a little triple 13 and alot of lime. I've planted it this way with clover and Buck oats. Have had great success with it this way for yrs now. One plot is in direct sun light and the other 3 are in the woods. The big differance is how much rain fall are you getting after you get the seeds in the fround for me here in MO. Like Bill said, you have to get them mature before the heat or bad wheather gets to them.

 

Good info.
Once clover is established keep it mowed to 8" or so .
It grows better shorter .
Also deer love the new greens .
I also plant turnips up here . Deer wont eat them until the ground starts to freeze .
I herd there sweeter then ?
Last August I cleared out a 30 ft. path on one of my wood parcels .
I raked out most weeds, limbs, branches etc. by hand .
Took about a week of sweating my butt off but came out grate .
I planted Imperial no-plow and man did it grow .
Just enough sun , rain and shade .
Also did a soil test and my pH level was to high so I had to ad sulfur to bring it down .
Up here we have a low ratio buck to doe population .
We have many yearling bucks , spikes , 4 pointer , etc. but we do also have some big boys running around .
I shot a 9 pointer that dressed out at 216 lbs. and has a 24" neck right behind the ears and has a 20" spread .
Also shot my 10 pointer last fall , he has a 22" neck measurement behind the ears .
Not real wide but very long tines for around here .
His G3,s are both about 11 inches long .

 

I have a question I am totally surrounded by farm land. a few patches of woods and some thickets. I put out feeders and salt and mineral areas. Whats the best way to keep them on the sole property? I have been thinkin bout a plot but there is so much around here for them to choose from.

 

Fire, if its possible, leave a few acres go to fields, like the goldenrod and ragweed I mentioned, or even switchgrass. You cant find a better bedding ground.

 

Yeah, i realize that!!


Bill- I think i might try and put some of that in. Im alergic to ragweed. I have a corner by a small patch of woods and briars that dont yield good because of lack of sunlight. We got plenty of alfalfa for them to munch on. The other killer is that there is a development close by and in the middle of it is a huge bottom with water and plenty of cover. We have been messin with this for several years now. It's just a bad setup.

 

If you can grow them where your at-- plant soybeans its a high source of protein and is a virtual deer magnet any time of year

 

Actually, the trypsin inhibitors in soybeans prevent the proteins from being released unless theyre processed, like roasting or extruding. The deer sure hit soybean fields though, dont they!

 

Yes they do. I have a pine grove and out from it we planted beans last year.... they ate everything about 10 feet out and the length of the grove. Like i said we provide plenty of yummies for em ! I just rather they travel and feed during the morning and evenings and not late at night. I have a group of about 15 deer hangin around since late rifle season. But when season comes back around we wont see nothin till we take corn off.

 

We love standing corn, just like other cover...and hunt it. Nothing like treelines or hedgerows adjacent to some standing corn or...again, goldenrod fields. During the breeding season bucks seem very comfortable moving at all hours in it.

 

How the heck do you "plant goldenrod"? I never heard of it being offered?

 

LOL you are talking about the actual beans right? I live in the heart of corn and soybean country, and I have NEVER seen a deer shuck a bean pod to eat the beans they are always just munchin on the leaves. They don't touch it around here onces it browns up.