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Discussion in 'Beginners' started by mikehurt88, Jul 19, 2012.

  1. mikehurt88

    mikehurt88 Member

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    Ok so I called my local DNR today to try and find out the legalities of me buying an out of state bobcat so I could attempt at mounting it. I'm from Illinois where it is illegal to take bobcats so I figured I'd see what he had to say on what I should do. He basically told me that I shouldn't even attempt to buy one out of state and that its all just to sticky of a situation to get caught up in if it was found out that it was not legally taken or something along those line. I'm fine with that but I've seen bobcats in other taxidermists shops so I figure he wasn't right on something.

    Now here's what I don't get. He basically made it sound like that you have to have a license to practice taxidermy...as in learning.. . Even if its just practicing on your own legal specimens that you have taken. He was talking deer, coyotes, squirrels, etc...things that are perfectly legal to have in my possession with the proper tags, licenses, etc...I was under the assumption that you can legally practice taxidermy to learn as long as you are not selling it as a business or practicing as a business. So my questions are Does anyone know the exact requirements here in Illinois and do you have to have a license for taxidermy just to practice in order to get started? If its something I need then I will buy it but this guy has completely confused me on everything I thought I know so I don't know what route to go. Just looking for some help and I may just call back and talk to someone else next time.

    Here is an exact copy from the taxidermy rules and regulations from the IDNR website regarding the laws for taxidermy:

    1. State Taxidermy License
    Before any person shall engage in the business of taxidermy within the state of
    Illinois, they must first procure a license from the Department of Natural
    Resources. The annual fee for a state taxidermy license is $25.00. Illinois taxidermy licenses expire on January 31st of each year.
    All licenses issued to the taxidermist are only valid at the location designated on
    the license application. Persons performing taxidermy while working for
    (whether paid or unpaid for their services) and at the business of the license
    holder shall not be required to possess a separate taxidermy license, provided the
    licensed taxidermist has submitted such person‟s name to the Department. Only
    those individuals whose names are on file with the Department shall be authorized
    to work under the scope of the taxidermist‟s license

    To me it sounds like you don't need one unless your are working as a business and selling or charging for what you are working on.
     
  2. meopilite

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    As far as doing taxidermy on your own stuff, a license allows you to retain that speciment in the freezer after seasons close. For example, in Minnesota, if you trap furbearers, you have to get rid of your furs one week after season close. A taxidermy license would actually allow you to keep the furs even after season close. Read about your possesion laws.

    A license is cheap. If your unsure, just buy one and your safe.
     

  3. Dark Man

    Dark Man Well-Known Member

    Not sure about other states but when i got started i also contacted the local warden.As long as you are not being compensated for your work you can mount whatever you want.However,you will need a fur bearers license to purchase untanned skins from others .Also if the mammal you wish to mount is illegal to harvest or posses in your state.refrain from purchase or your nex t visit with the dnr might not be so friendly!
     
  4. mikehurt88

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    The main reason I called was to just see if there was a legal way for me to buy a bobcat from a state where it is legal to trap them but he didn't even want to go into it he just stated its to sticky of a situation to get caught up in. I understand where he is coming from as its a safer bet to just steer clear of that type of situation but I bought a Bobcat DVD on how to mount one and I hate to see it go to waste.
     
  5. What is the dvd and how much do you want for it? Brett
     
  6. Alllright.
    You probably talked to law enforcement. They know nothing. Just gun toting cops.
    Email your inquiry to the IL DNR via their website. It will be forwarded to the necessary department.
    You will then have an answer IN WRITING one way or the other.
    Ron
     
  7. mikehurt88

    mikehurt88 Member

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    You are actually 100% right. I did talk to Law Enforcement becuase I thought they would know something haha...Thanks for the help I will send an email to see if I can figure this out. Thanks Again
     
  8. Pinebear

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    If the cat has a CITES tag it's legal to sell and buy in any state.
     
  9. Raynewolfe

    Raynewolfe TY for understanding things outside our control.

    Definitely check with dnr.

    Im in Indiana so cant offer you any state specific help.. but.. were not allowed to harvest bobcats either..

    Some states simply require proof of legal take from out of state. Best bet, get one with an attached cites tag. and dont let it sit in your freezer. I guess some states, whether your licensed or not, get weird about that. Check with the state your buying from and make sure YOU dont need a license from THEIR state to purchase a furbearer... some states are weird about that one to if its raw.

    as far as practicing.. as long as your receiving no compensation and its your own items id think it should be fine. BUT keep in mind that compensation can include but not be limited to: trade/barter, supplying taxidermy materials/supplies, or covering any other costs. Some states get hinky if you mount something and then sell the mount to.

    It can be safer to just get the license. However you will then have to keep good records. I belive dnr does perform audits for each state and not just ours. That means they check your items you have and legal paperwork etc.

    And waterfowl is a whole other thing unto itself. you need a federal permit for that one and while it may be doable for your own items I wouldnt recomend it without seriously checking with dnr and usfws. :)

    Hope that helps. With any luck someone from your state will chime in!