Neck measurement on a whitetail during the rut ???

Are you getting the hide thin ? I'm no pro but that helped me !

 

The best pickle n tan isn't worth a crap if your not shaving.

 

Are you ordering your form from the s t r e t c h e d tanned skin?

 

are you taking a green measurement before you salt? I ran into the same problem a while back. Started taking green measurement along with tanned cape measurement. That way I knew when I broke the hide after tanning what I needed to get it back to. Also like above comments, the thinner you shave the cape the easier it will be to stretch it back to it's original size.

 

It has more to do with your abilities and form choice than anything. My advice is take meat measurements when you cape them and then measurements after it is tanned. Some order forms using just the meat measurement but I like to use both measurements, when I can. The meat measurement lets me know what size the neck was when he was killed. The tanned measurement tells me if I can maybe use a little bit larger form. It should always come back to the meat measurement at least. If you are trying to get the "deer on steroid look" then try to enhance the muscle details. I'm guessing the deer you have mounted were just younger deer with skinny necks.

 

You are not ordering a whitetail swelled rut form. The one neck measurement will nearly always be the same whether in the rut or not.

 

I don't understand what you mean 3bears,you still have to get proper measurement ??

 

Maybe I can clear it up for you silverbuck. Proper measurements are important but take a look at the forms on the market some have the look that the OP was asking about, even with smaller necks, and others don't. A persons procedures when prepping the form and mounting the cape also play a significant role in the outcome of the finished mount. This is my way of measuring, I take the eye to nose measurement before I cape a deer. Once I have it caped, I take a measurement at the ears, over the meat not the cape. I prep for tanning, once tanned, I give it a little stretch and measure at the ears again I then take the other measurements that are used by the supply companies and order my form based on taking both pre tanned and tanned measurements into consideration. This is not the only way but the way that works for me.

 

just saying . take measurements after the cape is tanned and shaved . you will get a great deal more stretch In a cape that is shaved well . eye to nose measurements don't mean much unless your doing competition mounts . 99.999 % of customers will not see the difference with in a 1/2 in on the nose . just saying

 

I really like to stay within 1/4 inch on ETN measurement. Less skin to find a home for and keep hair patterns in place on face. I measure same as 3 Bears and don't over stretch cape. I never go more than 1/2 to 1 inch larger than meat measurements.


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If i take the B and C meat measurment, with the tan and shave I do i just dont worrk about what the cape is or says, I order the exact size and no larger than 1 inch more if I have to and it fits every time. Were you will see the biggest benifit in a good tan and stretch is life size mammals! Some times you need all the stretch you can get and there thin to start with. So a inch is alot!

Everyone has there opinion and none are really wrong, ig your confident in what you measured at first and do a good tan and shave it will FIT!

 

On an accurate manikin the ETN is just as important as any other measurement taken. A 1/2" difference on the ETN measurement will cause you more problems than the neck being too big or too small.

 

My only response to this statement is, make the form fit the skin not the other way around.

 

and the only thing I will say is money talks b.s walks . time is money . they should make a, perfect taxidermist category , i'll say no more on this subject.

 

440, you are correct time is money, but how much time does it take to measure and order a form that is the correct size verses taxiing skin around to look acceptable when a form is too small. Referring to the comment about perfect taxidermist category, I am far from perfect and I accept that. Can you?

 

yes I do accept that .lol . every mount I do I find flaws in it, ( an eye lash or a ear that may be ( in my eyes ) 1/16 off . that I didn't see on the many times I have looked at it . living is learning , if your not learning then just sit in a chair and watch tv and die .

 

I know one item that works really well for me to get that bigger rut neck is using a folded over atv innertube with 2 lbs. of air. And it slides over very very easily.The snake is the same but just cost more !!George gave me the idea and it works very well !! 8)