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Safety Solvent

Discussion in 'Fish Taxidermy' started by TaxidermyArtist1, Jun 10, 2015.

  1. den007

    den007 Active Member

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    I am the "Most Interesting Man in the World"

    I don't always drink fish pickle…………..

    But when I do………….

    It is Freakin' Denatured Alcohol all the way plus fish juice.
     
  2. TaxidermyArtist1

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    Read the warnings on the label:
    Wear appropriate gloves , safety glasses , avoid breathing vapor, do not smoke or use product near open flames. Manufacturer warning on every bottle. Tell ya what to do , soak up a rag with "safety" solvent , place in paper bag , breath deep for 5 min, if we hear back from you then it's safe !!! Now breath deep !!!!
     

  3. Cecil

    Cecil Well-Known Member

    ;D
     
  4. Clayman357

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    Look you obviously don't understand my question for your original post. (Which you still never answered.) I never said safety solvent was as you would like "SAFE". I asked what logic did you use other than the manufactures warnings and your supposed brain to deduce this product is TOXIC. Still waiting on that answer. I never once attacked your persons, just questioned your methods for claiming something is so TOXIC. I'm done arguing with idiots... Goodbye!
     
  5. TaxidermyArtist1

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    Why was my original question not answered , why is it called “SAFETY SOLVENT” when it is not ? Why does the labeling give the impression it is water based by the waves and water droplet in the name on the label when it is not?
     
  6. Clayman357

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    The answer to that question would lie with the manufacturer. What information do you have to say this product is not safe? Did you read the MSDS or have it tested in a lab? NO you just read the label formulated in your own head its not safe then posted it here. As George would say bullspit....... IT IS WATER BASED, (obviously your lab confirmed your assumption it is NOT water based) that's why the label is that way. It is certified as the safest solvent on the market. Backed by laboratory testing that certified it as close to non-toxic as it can be. (You cannot say anything nowdays is NON-TOXIC without many legal issues.) So you can rest easy that this product has been formulated and certified to be safe to use as directed. If you would have done the research yourself instead of posting false claims you wouldn't have so much egg on your face..... This post is put to rest...I'm done.
     
  7. den007

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    As mentioned before, it may only be "safe" from an application viewpoint. Dump lacquer thinner on a mount and it eats paint away instantly. Safely solvent…..not so fast. Probably just an overpriced bottle of rubbing alcohol. Remove paint from eyes……lacquer thinner attacks the plastic. Safety solvent is much, much slower to attack and yet will remove overspray.
     
  8. TaxidermyArtist1

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    How many times are you done ? haha, Ok , you win, matters not that much to me , i will not purchase again. You must really like that stuff. Thanks for the tips on the Alcohol guys , it works great !
     
  9. Cecil

    Cecil Well-Known Member

    Are you guys still arguing about Safety Solvent? Seriously? ;D
     
  10. I think this discussion has come up before and some one stated what has already been said here.

    "So where does the "safety" apply ? Not as toxic as others ?"

    Exactly
     
  11. M.T.

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    I have a buddy that got into a car accident and he was wearing his safety belt. The dang thing almost cut him in half. That's not to safe now is it? It's hard to say what would've happened if he wasn't wearing it. But being almost cut in half isn't to safe.
     
  12. den007

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    I have noticed many times when a "controversial" topic comes up, many newbies (3-20) posts jump out of the woodwork.

    For God's sake, why doesn't AVES just come on here and answer the damn question? Who are the mysterious posters that have few if any previous posts…….employees? CEO's?

    Identify yourselves with a name and qualifications, if you have any.
     
  13. LarryL

    LarryL Member

    Well den just because someone does not have thousands of posts does not make them new I myself have been doing taxidermy for well over 30 closer to 40 years and have been on taxi net from its inception, (old forums) I usually do not have time to make lots of posts, now on to your question about Aves answering the question, who do you think clay man is? He is from Aves and how many people have read the Msds ? To see for them selves just saying no need to argue with the manufacturer of a product if you have not done your part first if you do not like it do not use it it is that simple. Larry
     
  14. 1fish2fish

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    I haven't found the MSDS for AVES safety solvent readily available. Maybe someone knows where to search better. I find non-AVES safety solvent MSDS, but not AVES brand. I would have thought AVES would have it linked to their product page in the website, am I overlooking it?
     
  15. FishArt

    FishArt Well-Known Member

    Bump

    ;)
     
  16. Cecil

    Cecil Well-Known Member

    P

    Bump, bump. ;D
     
  17. den007

    den007 Active Member

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    Axel has a point, and I am not sure if SS is not just mostly DA plus a little mumbo jumbo. Rubbing alcohol works about the same. Why not just list the ingredients? Oh, then a person could just go out and buy rubbing alcohol. Apoxy products are higly allergenic and that is why they probably took any "safe" labels off. It is not safe and neither is epoxy. Does anybody want to explain the difference?
     
  18. Steve.J

    Steve.J Member

    Epoxy is the correct term when referring to the mixture of epoxy resins to form a strong adhesive.
    Apoxy is just a brand name. So, Apoxy Sculpt is actually an Epoxy compound.
    Yes, solid Epoxy resins can cause allergic reactions and in some severe cases dermatitis and other skin problems. I use Aves Apoxy Sculpt and just use water to mix and blend and feather out to a smooth surface. Never had a problem using water. As with most other things in the shop, Epoxy can cause health problems after a while. This includes Bondo, polyester resin, glues, alcohols, tanning solutions, foam dust, foam liquids, paint dust, solvents, and the list goes on and on.
     
  19. Steve.J

    Steve.J Member

    Bump.
     
  20. Cecil

    Cecil Well-Known Member

    Bump, bump, bump.