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How do you fill a hollow walleye reproduction? need help

Discussion in 'Beginners' started by snag, Jul 19, 2018.

  1. snag

    snag Member

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    I got 2 walleye reproductions and they are hollow. What are some ways to fill these in the front body and head, mouth area? Is there a special foam for this or can you just use the expanding foam for sealing cracks that comes in a spray can? Thanks for any help!
     
  2. 3bears

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    Why do you need to fill them? Is there a block for attaching to the wall? If It were me I would glue in a block and then fill with expanding 2 part foam, if I felt I needed to fill them.
     

  3. Keith

    Keith Well-Known Member

    Filling with foam, you are at risk of blowing the cast apart.
     
  4. snag

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    The head is empty and need to put something in there so I can fill in the gill area and mouth area. The open gill cut out is pretty large and need something in there to attach gills to. It has a block of wood inside for mounting.
     

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  5. FishArt

    FishArt Well-Known Member

    You can use expanding foam to provide some backing but as mentioned you need to be careful as it can blow out a mold if too much is used. BUT, I don't use expanding foam for another reason - I'm cheap - lol! Usually, foam in a can is a one time use. So, I end up wasting most of a can (or find holes or cracks around my house to fill as I never use much on a fish.) All you need is something for your epoxies to grab onto or prevent from falling into the mold. For eye setting I like to simply shove a bunch of old newspaper in until it's kind've tight. For the gill area you can cut and glue fitted cardboard down for a foundation to build Apoxie Sculpt or the likes on top and around. Just make sure some of it is adhering to the mold too when you lay it down and not just on the cardboard so you get good adhesion. And lay your epoxies down in layers so the weight of the epoxies doesn't collapse the cardboard and/or newspaper inside...
     
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  6. snag

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    Thank you 3bears and Keith for you reply. FishArt, I think you have some good ideas there for filling this area in. Thank you for taking the time to reply to my post.
     
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  7. Cole

    Cole Amateur Taxidermist

    I use 2 part foam. Just a bit if its just to set eyes, more if it is an open gill that needs filled. I will tape off the open gills with foil tape, pour through one of the eyes. You are only using enough foam to fill the head area, not the whole fish. I then remove the foil tape and carve my gills out of the foam that is left. You can coat your gills with some resin, epoxy, or plastic and paint. Works pretty slick.
     
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  8. snag

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    Thank you Cole, another good idea for me to try. There is so much help on this site for the beginner. It's all appreciated.
     
  9. FishArt

    FishArt Well-Known Member

    Cole - what kind of two part foam do you use if you don't mind sharing? That sounds like the way to go as you don't waste a can of the Great Stuff for only a small amount needed and probably more supportive than the method I've been using. Newspaper is fine for setting eyes, but the gill area not so much. For me it only happens once in a while when I order a blank from an obscure source. But nonetheless I have seen a need for foam usage in the shop on other occasions as well. Does this two part product have a long shelf life?
     
  10. Cole

    Cole Amateur Taxidermist

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  11. FishArt

    FishArt Well-Known Member

    Thanks Cole. I am doing more replicas these days and this is a product I probably should invest in. Sold out for now, but I'll check back. Thanks.
     
  12. snag

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    I decided to try the expanding crack filler in a can. It worked great and I didn't split the blank. I had two 29" walleye blanks that I did at the same time and it took just about all the can for part way back to the block of wood and to fill the gill and head area not quit full leaving some room for it to expand. The next morning I carved out the gill and in the center it was liquidly. So then it started slowly oozing out. Every hour I would carve out what had oozed out and after several times it finally quit .I let it set for a couple days and tonight I covered it with Apoxie sculpt.
     
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  13. Cory

    Cory Keep an eye on quality!

    You should be able to get the same thing from Matuskas.
     
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  14. Cory

    Cory Keep an eye on quality!

    The only thing to be aware of when using the expanding foam in a can is the fact that it does and will break down over time. As long as you have covered the foam with an epoxy, it should however not cause you any troubles. I would make sure to also get a good epoxy base behind the eye orbit for this reason.
     
  15. snag

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    Thank you for this advise Cory, I will put extra behind the eye and I am covering the mouth and gill area as well.
     
  16. byrdman

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    foam in a can is not just one time use just remove straw and clean nozzle and straw...and the foam will only break down in sunlight... a shot of plain water in a syringe wil cure the "wet" foam
     
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