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kerosene?

Discussion in 'Tanning' started by JSeiler, Nov 2, 2008.

  1. JSeiler

    JSeiler Active Member

    has any one heard of using kerosene to preserve a hide? I was told this one day and it just got me curious. I was told to flesh it like you normally would and then salt it for a few days then place it in a barrel of kerosene for around 5 days or weeks (can't remember). Then you take it out and work the hide to make it soft, the only thing that i don't understand is, how would you get the kerosene smell out of the hide? Its to my understanding that this is how the skins people sell are as white and pliable as they are. Anyway just wondering just seamed interesting. Oh and if this methood does work would it work well for mounting?
     
  2. Jason O

    Jason O Active Member

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  3. JSeiler

    JSeiler Active Member

    Ha Ha, ya I thought about that to Jason
     
  4. cyclone

    cyclone Posts: 400001

    Save your kerosene for your oil furnace or your diesel. Find smarter people to listen to...
     
  5. Frank E. Kotula

    Frank E. Kotula master, judge, instructor

    Wow another joker around here. Sure use what ever you like but when things go wrong hey don't blame us. If what you said was true why don't we sell it as one. Come on get some common sense here and use the right products for this work and not some snake oil medicine some of you try and talk about.
     
  6. bill@hogheaven

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    Why do people keep on trying to reinvent the wheel?
     
  7. Monte

    Monte Missouri fur-Limited hair-tanning

    Kerosene is used with salt as a degreasing scrub for sheep and goat tanning in explosion proof environment. I would not use it at home or small shop. There are plenty of better choices for the home tanner.
     
  8. Uncle Harley

    Uncle Harley New Member

    If you don't want to use modern technology why don't you just jump way back in history and use Ancient methods and just piss on it!!!! LOL


    [edit] Ancient methods of tanning

    Tanneries at FezIn ancient history, tanning was considered a noxious or "odiferous trade" and relegated to the outskirts of town, amongst the poor. Indeed, tanning by ancient methods is so foul smelling that tanneries are still isolated from those towns today where the old methods are used. The ancients used leather for waterskins, bags, harnesses, boats, armor, quivers, scabbards, boots and sandals. Tanning was being carried out by the South Asian inhabitants of Mehrgarh between 7000–3300 BC.[1] Around 2500 BC, the Sumerians began using leather, affixed by copper studs, on chariot wheels.

    Skins typically arrived at the tannery dried stiff and dirty with soil and gore. First, the ancient tanners would soak the skins in water to clean and soften them. Then they would pound and scour the skin to remove any remaining flesh and fat. Next, the tanner needed to remove the hair fibers from the skin. This was done by either soaking the skin in urine, painting it with an alkaline lime mixture, or simply letting the skin putrefy for several months then dipping it in a salt solution. After the hair fibers were loosened, the tanners scraped them off with a knife.

    Once the hair was removed, the tanners would bate the material by pounding dung into the skin or soaking the skin in a solution of animal brains. Among the kinds of dung commonly used were that of dogs or pigeons. Sometimes the dung was mixed with water in a large vat, and the prepared skins were kneaded in the dung water until they became supple, but not too soft. The ancient tanner might use his bare feet to knead the skins in the dung water, and the kneading could last two or three hours.

    It was this combination of urine, animal feces and decaying flesh that made ancient tanneries so odiferous.

    Children employed as dung gatherers were a common sight in ancient cities. Also common were "piss-pots" located on street corners, where human urine could be collected for use in tanneries or by washerwomen. In some variations of the process, cedar oil, alum or tannin were applied to the skin as a tanning agent. As the skin was stretched, it would lose moisture and absorb the agent.

    Leftover leather would be turned into glue. Tanners would place scraps of hides in a vat of water and let them deteriorate for months. The mixture would then be placed over a fire to boil off the water to produce hide glue.

    Variations of these methods are still used by do-it-yourself outdoorsmen to tan hides. The use of brains and the idea that each animal (except buffalo) has just enough brains for the tanning process have led to the saying "Every animal has just enough brains to preserve its own hide, dead or alive."
     
  9. JSeiler

    JSeiler Active Member

    easy guys i was just asking, I tan all my hides with tanning cream from Dennis Rinehart I was just curious as if it actually worked or not. Thanks for the history Uncle Harley lol