Brushwolf, if you go to the rear of Bills property, look in the giant elm tree and you will see a tree stand i put up last year when Bill was away. Climb over the fence like you did as a kid geting in to see XXX movies at the drive in, and climb the stand with a camcorder. it wont cost you nothing except your ass if Yox finds out about the stand!! Dont tell him, it was craigs idea!!