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New Pricing Structure Based on Qaulity?

Discussion in 'Deer and Gameheads' started by Trophy Specialist, Jan 30, 2009.

  1. rj9289

    rj9289 Buck the system, be an individual, be who you are.

    LMAO. After reading this i want to raise my prices next year. To bad i cant..

    Krowtann, so easy a caveman could do it.
     
  2. AFWS

    AFWS The lost Robertson

    I decided to do that last week ::) might be shooting myself in the foot ,but what I've been doing for two years hasn't really worked :-\ haven't really got very many calls ,but not many deer being killed this year either :mad: the phone number that's floating around is my parents home phone(still live at home :-\ ;D ) so my mom deals with the customers on the phone.Was taught NOT to give prices over the phone cause they'll here the price and you'll NEVER hear from them again ::) they get so pi$$ed when you don't give them a price and they'll be begging for a just a range ::) so what does lovely mom do? she gives them a range :mad: So I've decided to "COMMERCIAL" aka "SLAP TOGETHER IN 8 HOURS" taxidermy and HIGHER END MOUNTS, give them what they want to hear on the phone and maybe they'll go with the HIGHER END.Mom started telling them they got two options, price or QUALITY ;D She also tells them that IT WAS THERE DECISION when there mount looks like $hit and falls apart cause they went with price instead of QUALITY.One guy stopped by to check out my work after having the "price or QUALITY"chit chat with mom and he wants the HIGHER end mount ;D suppose to be getting back with me ,but I haven't heard anything yet ::)
     

  3. rj9289

    rj9289 Buck the system, be an individual, be who you are.

    Yeah AFWS thats smart, after that "commercial" mount you do for him "looks like $hit and falls apart" im sure that will get you some customers.
     
  4. AFWS

    AFWS The lost Robertson

    Ya think? ;D I've seen it done a hundred times, even though taxidermist say they don't do it ;) "Commercial" is the key word ;) they don't give the CUSTOMERS the QUALITY that they can actually do ::) on customers mounts they always draw a line in quality
     
  5. Trophy Specialist

    Trophy Specialist Well-Known Member

    Actually George, I was totally undecided on this issue and went back and forth on it all summer. Please don't get offended becuase I didn't do what you advised. I decided to give it a try for at least part of the early deer seasons and based on the results, I'm sticking with it for a while longer. I'm in the taxidermy business to make money, not to impress people. If I don't take in enough work, then all the quality in the world won't pay the bills. I don't think that a lot of people on here know what it's like economically here in Michigan. A five year recession with 15% unemployment is hard on the type of businesses I run. Also, I'm not undercutting anybody around here. I'm charging about the same for my high end option as other taxidermists offering similar quality. I'm also charging about the same price for my ecomony mounts as the taxidermists in town who are doing low end work.
     
  6. George

    George The older I get, the better I was.

    I'm probably the only one who thought that the title of the post said it all when you misspelled quality. I'm just not talented enough to be able to do less quality work than I offer as a standard. If I'm charging more than my work is worth, my customers will tell me, and if I'm charging less, then the workload will tell me. Those are the only two indicators I've found to be constant. I don't screw with my indicators or my quality. Remember, it's YOUR NAME that goes on both those pieces going out the door. When two customers have common friends, how much each paid for it is not going to be the discussion but rather what one got versus the other. Don't even THINK they'll be honest with their friends. Both pieces have your name on them.
     
  7. rj9289

    rj9289 Buck the system, be an individual, be who you are.

    Exactttlyyyyy
     
  8. mk

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    true so just lure them in with the low price and if you get the occasional guy that don't want to bite on the higher quality mount for the higher price send his ass out the door. 8)
     
  9. George

    George The older I get, the better I was.

    They usually call that "bait and switch" in most other industries.
     
  10. Mr.T

    Mr.T Active Member

    Your website states, that you are Michigans Top deer head specialist, with heads starting at $250. I can almost bet, you will never do any mounts at your "higher quality price" ever again once you are known for cheap mounts. And I don't believe your Michigans Top deer head specialist for a second.
     
  11. rj9289

    rj9289 Buck the system, be an individual, be who you are.

    i was just getting ready to ask what he charges for a deer.
     
  12. mk

    mk -30 below

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    yeah, thats true. hey they don't have to get it done do they once they are at your place at least they seen your work. too many guys just call up ask for price and it seems like once you tell them you hear a click on the phone and they hung up on you before you got to tell them more about your work, and others don't care about what you tell them on the phone anyways. :-\
     
  13. arby

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    I'm going to agree with the folks who seem to have the experience of being in this business for many years. I've been doing taxidermy for 28 years, 24 full time. I've competed through the 90's, and studied with some of the the industries best. I have some 4000 deer heads under my my belt so hopefully I'm somewhat qualified to comment.

    I had an interesting conversation with a good client awhile back when he brought in his trophy deer for mounting. He stated he wanted my" best" deer mount. At the time I was $450 for a shoulder mount. Now I don't know about the rest of you guys, but I spend roughly 8 to 9 hours total labor on a deer head. In that time I produce a clean quality anatomically correct commercial mount. Could I spend 25 to 30 or even more hours on a deer? YES. I explained to my client I could give him a totally custom mount and spend those hours but the price would would be 3 to 4 times higher.

    The point is, when I hear taxidermists saying they are going to produce their highest quality possible on all their mounts I am somewhat amused. I do believe in good, clean quality mounts that you can produce in X amount of time. Although I cannot prove it, I don't think there is a a good market for $1,500 deer heads. To be successful in this business you need two things. You have to produce a quality product and produce it in a timely matter. If you can only do one of these, you will probably go out of business. Remember, you can only sell junk once.
     
  14. Trophy Specialist

    Trophy Specialist Well-Known Member

    You are very wrong. Of all the heads I've taken in this year only one opted for the $250 option. The rest went with $440(+) mounts. I made sure to explain my services and pricing to every person too, so there is no bait and switch at all. My website also details the differences in those options too. Customers pay for different levels of service in many businesses. I do it in my fishing charter business. I offer differing hours on charters for different prices. I also see taxidermists do the same things with all kinds of options or "competition quality" for additional charges. I'm just laughing at the people posting on here proclaiming that they will never do less than their best, which of course is a complete load of BS.
     
  15. Trophy Specialist

    Trophy Specialist Well-Known Member

    Congrats on finding a typo. Now do you want me to point out the errors I find in your posts to somehow degrade you?
     
  16. mk

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    trophy specialist, dont worry its just how old george operates.lol. i do commend you on having the balls to do what you did and guess what it was a sucess.
     
  17. George

    George The older I get, the better I was.

    Trophy Specialist, you live in the same dream world as mk. Whatever you think is bulshyt probably tends to come from you being a charlatan as a boat captain as well. We've all seen your type. I never said ANYTHING like you posted, I stated that I didn't know HOW to do less quality than what I've become known for. I can't see Bondoing ear when I've used earliners forever. I can't see using cheap plastic or production eyes when I've used IQ's for years. Septums are always there and I would never consider dry preserving a hide over tanning one. All my eyelids are tucked . Maybe your customers are used to be shystered (I guess for one rate you take fishermen to where fish are biting, for another you give them bait, and for the cheap guys you anchor up where no fish show up on the fishfinder?) As I said, my name goes out of my shop on every piece that leaves here. Whether I do it pesonally or I have it contracted out, it's all MY responsibility and my tag on the back means I'll stand behind it for years to come. When your POS piece comes back in, what are you going to do then? Tell him his "warranty is voided" because he got the cheaper deal? You can TELL us anything you want us to hear. Whether it's the truth is another. If you'd treat customers like that, what proof do we have that you wouldn't do us the same way.

    Arby, I'm not sure where you came from with the bit about competition pieces. Most of us don't offer that option unless asked. Like a few others, when I enter my state competition, I take work right off the floor, however. It's COMMERCIAL WORK and a far cry from what would be needed for true competitions at high levels. Don't cofuse bottom feeding with the WTC or NTA. I'm in total agreement with you on that being both impractical and impossible.

    mk, for someone with no balls or integrity, (your already waffling between lambasting "lowballers" and being one yourself) you have a lot of bogus advice to give to anyone from your pulpit don't you. How long have YOU been in business?
     
  18. Bill Yox

    Bill Yox Well-Known Member

    Im guilty of not reading this whole post, but the premise troubles me. Two qualities and two prices? Thats nuts, in my opinion. Thats what my customers tell me, so its not just me. Just like a body shop who agrees to paint just ONE car cheaply to help a friend with limited means, that one cheap paint job will haunt you, and NOBODY will step up and say it was an economy/charity job. Theyll only say who painted it. Some of you probably will disagree with me, thats fine, but I DO make sure I do a good job, and get paid to do it, on all my mounts. The lesser detailed, lesser money job is available...from another shop. We all stay busy.
     
  19. Trophy Specialist

    Trophy Specialist Well-Known Member

    George, you really show your lack of decorum when you have to resort to insults to try to scare people off. Real classy…. I won’t reduce myself to your level and trade insults with you so good luck with that, but l will say that people that misbehave like you loose a lot of credibility on this site every time you go off.
     
  20. mk

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    well put bill, you changed my mind with that statement, but am thinking of a bait and switch tactic though.lol :D