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Do you do both eyes on a standard mount?

Discussion in 'Fish Taxidermy' started by Trophy Specialist, May 19, 2009.

  1. I do both eyes

    104 vote(s)
    77.6%
  2. I only do one eye on the show side

    30 vote(s)
    22.4%
  1. Brian W

    Brian W Active Member

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    I agree with John C and Randy..........seems like we get guys fired up about this topic about every 6-months..........I love the "take the finger off the trigger" comment though Aaron. I can picture (anybody care to post one) George in that position. Its the "make my day" mind-set. No offense George......
    Hey, I always put two eyes in a flounder.........
     
  2. Randy Miller

    Randy Miller Active Member

    Even if the customer wants the belly to be the show side? LOL
     

  3. George

    George The older I get, the better I was.

    73 (78.5%) Using both eyes
    20 (21.5%) Using one eye

    Hmmm, I see a pattern here. I guess the better you are, the more you can put over on your customer????
     
  4. FishArt

    FishArt Well-Known Member

    Dan, you are FUNNY! I too have to chuckle that such a benign topic is now up to SIX pages - lol!

    Aaron, you can't change now if you wanted to. I BRIEFLY started doing two eyes on wall mounts due to pressure from the masses (on here) about 6 or 7 years ago. Somehow thinking that I was losing customers because I didn't set two eyes. That lasted about a half dozen fish and to this day it still worries me that some current customer is going to say "How come you installed TWO eyes for so and so and not my fish?" LOL!

    George, you're funny too!
     
  5. duxdog

    duxdog Active Member

    Goerge, is it lonely in your world?
     
  6. George

    George The older I get, the better I was.

    With 78.5% of the people, Duxdog, I wouldn't call that "lonesome" by any stretch. How about you? (And just for you, many of those 21.5% guys are personal friends. Paul Borkowskin (Pescado) is certainly a guy I look up to - even if he doesn't look his age- and is a good friend as well. So stop trying to make bantering like this serious. IT AIN'T.)
     
  7. I think what we each charge per inch, How many eyes we set in a fish, our abilities- strengths and weaknesses obviously all come into play with the market we target and the volume and type of work we persue....
    Its kinda like saying we should all charge ...say $25/inch or so much per fish species. It just does not make sense, when the finished products vary from one to another.
    I will also say that many times I have bought something and thought...hmmmm I would prefer that this or that was done, but I don't say anything. Then the next time I purchase the item, I look around a little more.
    I'm not saying that is the case with this 1/2 eye debate, but the customer does not always vocalize little preferences or disappointments. So when I hear people say ..why I have never had a customer say anything about one eye....that does not mean that they did not notice or prefer 2.
    No big deal either way to me either. I said so on page 1 or 2 of this thread...I'm not sure how to vote, since I sculpt the back eye..
    I don't know if it is best to ALWAYS imitate what the best in the business do...your not really competing with them, when you think about it. ;)
     
  8. byrdman

    byrdman Well-Known Member

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    eyes are sold in pairs.... I install them in pairs.....most of my fish mounts are on dw and are not flat on wall and being more of a bird and mammal guy I allways have to have the head symetrical from the front view....havent done a one -eyed fish for 30 years.....lots of commercial bait-store fish though still mounted with one eye around here in the land of 10,000 lakes
     
  9. DanB

    DanB New Member

    Well I didn't vote. I'm not registered. ;D
    I would bet half the ones who did vote don't even do fish.
     
  10. FishArt

    FishArt Well-Known Member

    Or, SHOULDN'T be!!! OH! - B-dum-bum - LOL!!!!
     
  11. Just my op innion if you try to cut corners on eyes what comes next I voted for 2 not 1 because that is what I would expect not pointing fingers just asking
     
  12. Perca

    Perca Well-Known Member

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    Nothing comes next for me. One eye and that's it. [​IMG]
     
  13. Jason O

    Jason O Active Member

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    not much of a question,pay for one side get 1 side
     
  14. camarogirl

    camarogirl Hunting is MURDER! Tasty, tasty murder. ~steak~

    Huh... Now I know that I am new to this, but it had never even crossed my mind (until I read this thread) to not put in both eyes. After reading the posts, I can see the point in both sides of this lil debacle, but of the fish that I have done (and granted, it has been few by most people's standards), I have had several folks say that they really like the second eye on the back. One gentleman even said that it was a nice touch, even if it wasn't seen. Maybe it is just me, but as a new taxidermist, I appreciate greatly the fact that the folks I work for (yes, we work for our customers) enjoy that lil extra, even if I didn't know that it was extra at the time. I gotta say, too, (and I am sure that I will get blasted for this but so be it), I am very surprised at the amount of professionals here that have such a low opinion of their customers. Saying they are all "confused", and if they don't like what is given to them, they can go elsewhere, or it is "their fault". It doesn't take anything more then a lil time to explain fully a customer's options (and it doesn't always have to be "our way is the best way"). Theses people keep us in business... But like I said, it just may be that I am pleased as punch to be getting into this business at all, but I take the time to speak to the folks I work for, answer their questions and concerns, and I don't worry about cutting every single corner that I can to save a few bucks. I am concerned with returned business, doing the best quality job that I can, and that the customer is happy. Word of mouth is a powerful thing, and every lil bit can hurt or help us. Leaving out an eye, that can add that lil extra, can also adversely affect how a customer sees our work.
    OK, rant over. I will try to dodge the tomatoes as they are thrown (just don't throw them too hard, they make a helluva mess).
     
  15. Wildside

    Wildside Active Member

    Very nicely worded. I could not agree more.
     
  16. camarogirl

    camarogirl Hunting is MURDER! Tasty, tasty murder. ~steak~

    No tomoatoes? Haha, sorry couldn't resist. Thank you for your kind words. :)
     
  17. Trophy Specialist

    Trophy Specialist Active Member

    As a followup, I did decide to go with the majority and do both eyes on the repros I finished last week. I did however keep track of just how much actual extra expense was involved in doing so. For each mount, it took me about an extra 45 minutes of work to finish the eye on the "wall" side of the head. That equates to about $30 in labor (at my normal shop rate). So, when you figure the labor costs with the cost of an extra eye, epoxy putty, paint... the real cost is $35-40 for that eye that you can't see unless you look where your not supposed too. ;D
     
  18. A- Fish

    A- Fish Stehling's Taxidermy

    45 minutes to set one eye ? I think you could probably speed that up a bit. Even if you roll it and rebuild everything properly, I can't see 45 min.How long did it take you to do the whole fish ?
     
  19. Cole

    Cole Amateur Taxidermist

    Trophy can speak for himself, but I can see 45 min. This would include painting the eye, setting the eye, painting the back side of the head, and cleaning the eye when done. It's a little long but 30 min is well within what I'd consider normal.
     
  20. A- Fish

    A- Fish Stehling's Taxidermy

    I guess if you include painting time it could come to that. Makes more sense.

    It's LATE and I'm an airhead ( as usual)