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Discussion in 'Lifesize Mammals' started by Joe Simmons, Nov 24, 2009.

  1. George

    George The older I get, the better I was.

    OK Becky, I'm back from Baltimore and ready to play. You said, "Bottom line, if they are THAT strapped for cash, they should have used the money they went hunting on for paying their bills or a side of beef (at least in this area anyway because you don't hunt free here)."

    Want to rationalize why that statement can't be turned around on you, Ron, and mk? Sounds like you're talking about TAXIDERMISTS WHO BITCH ABOUT "LOWBALLERS"!!!
     
  2. linspace

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    OK.. well here is an approach to this issue from the other end totaly. I am new.. I am not even opening to the public yet for deer heads. May be a while. As I think about the price I will charge, I do NOT want to undercut those around me.. I want to be a proffessional in all aspects. I want to get what I deserve. BUT.. I know, without a fact, that I am not at present as good as others are yet. Can I prduce something someone will want.. YES, is it as good as the other guys around here that have been doing it for 20 years? NO. So.. do I charge as much as them.. or do I charge lower and be completely honest with my customers that I am new and not an "expert" yet. I know withoubt a doubt I will be an expert one day... but how do I price it now..
     

  3. Ross

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    Hell i would like to know the answer to that as well. You worded that beautifully
    let me know when you have the answer ok
     
  4. hoytman

    hoytman UTA Member

    Ross,

    I took the 14-15 Taxidermist that I have found in the state who had pricelists available via the web or suck.... I added the totals for each species and took the mean average.. Not the high guy, nor am I the Lowballer.. Seems to work fine..
     
  5. redwolf

    redwolf Active Member

    X2. That was how I got my first years prices, and I went up from there. I'm still average, not the highest, but not the lowest either.
     
  6. mk

    mk -30 below

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    wow george your perceptive today. me bitch about lowballers, really. lol. ::) sorry but i`m with becky on this one...
     
  7. Trotax

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    Where do you people think a lot of the lowballers honed their taxidermy skills. Many of them asked for and recieved advice from the very people who are bitchin about it. Lots of good free info on here but is it really good for our industry?
     
  8. George

    George The older I get, the better I was.

    Trotax, I'm delighted you asked that question. The answer is "CERTAINLY", especially in the socialist utopia mk, Ron and Becky are advocating. See, that way we can rubberstamp all our mounts, take all originality out of them, set a standard that can't be improved upon and all charge the same rate. Doesn't that make perfect sense?

    OR, could it be that some of us aren't threatened by sharing what we know with others out of concern for our fellow man whose work we, as an industry, live on. If I have to worry about how much the other guy is charging for his work, in the sage words heard here, "if they are THAT strapped for cash, (I) should have used the money (I spent on supplies) on for paying their bills "
     
  9. hoytman

    hoytman UTA Member

    WTF.... I think its time for a Bitburger.. then go to the VFW.. LOL..
     
  10. Uncle Harley

    Uncle Harley New Member


    I figured up what my cost was ( including overhead) and how many hrs I averaged into a head and what I wanted my hrly rate to be to pay myself and came up $25 more than the guy literally 100 yrds across the road that has been doing it for 15 yrs. Not sure if it was coinicodence or if he price checked me but later that yr I heard from a customer that he was now the same price as me. We are now tied as the second highest in town and not by much ............but according to some on here I would be considered a lowball hack. Did I go up this yr? Nope.......did I get a raise this yr at my day job.......ummmmm nope not with this economy.......... so I let my price ride this yr. Will I go up next yr no matter what? Yip! You betcha!
     
  11. RDA

    RDA Active Member

    THANK YOU MR FIRST YEAR IN THE BUSINESS NEXT!!!!!!
     
  12. Uncle Harley

    Uncle Harley New Member

    easy fellas........it's late and we are all tired........Ron, I don't know how to take your comment to me I can't read your voice inflection LOL
     
  13. hoytman

    hoytman UTA Member

    Ron, I hope your comment wasn't directed at me? Hmmmm
     
  14. Uncle Harley

    Uncle Harley New Member

    nope I'm pretty sure it was to me......... and he is right last yr was my first yr open to the public........and that is part of my problem......... I'm one of 2 of the second highest guys in town and the 1 guy who is higher ........well he does better work than me, I hate to admit it but he does. How smart of a business decision would it be for me to go higher than him when his work is better? Once I can get my quality up to his level or greater CONSISTANTLY......... then the sky is my limit.
     
  15. hoytman

    hoytman UTA Member

    I am sure your still worried about George and his family.. its all good.. Sometimes people say things they dont mean.. and sometimes people mean what they arent trying to say.. or something like that..
     
  16. Bill Yox

    Bill Yox Well-Known Member

    Intelligent taxidermists know that it doesnt matter. Its the way it is, like it or not.

    Suburban Detroit is different then the upper peninsula, one county in Texas is night and day different then the very next county, and so on. Ohio competes with the amish community, PA has a taxidermist behind every tree.

    When are guys going to learn the most simple of lessons? You cannot MAKE taxidermy be something it isnt. Taxidermy is not a full time occupation all the time, every season, for many people in many areas. Smart people either diversify or know when to back off and try plan B.

    Lastly, George, stop being so pigheaded or Ill tell even more people that you are my friend. Ron, stop fighting with George or Ill tell people you and I are friends too. All of you guys, accept the fact that all areas of the country are different and one blanket statement about pricing will not fit, losing a job to a lowball price stings the ego more then hurts our industry, and if this post gets nasty, I will delete it. Play smart, and nice please. Call it editing, moderating or stifling, I dont care. Just be nice, we are brothers, like it or not. Funny how we should be expected to price similarly for the good of the industry, yet we cant even talk nice to each other about it...
     
  17. Trotax

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    Its the same in any industry. The more people you have competing for business the lower prices will go.
     
  18. Trotax

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    What I should have said is in a flooded market prices will drop.
     
  19. Uncle Harley

    Uncle Harley New Member

    Bill that is the best most honest statement I've read all week! LMAO!
     
  20. RDA

    RDA Active Member

    HERES THE TIME PERIOD WHEN GEORGE CALLED ME NUTHING BUT A DRUNKARD, age 17 Civil Air Patrol USAF AUXILLIARY. this is my every day salad, as the full compliment would not fit on the page.......Over 2600 sorties on SEARCH AND RESCUE MISSIONS, MERITORIOUS SERVICE AWARD, SEARCH AND RESCUE FIND AWARD CLASS A AIR FOCE ENCAMPMENT AWARD RECRUITERS RIBBON, BILLY MITCHELL AWARD, ALSO COMPLETE CERTIFIED COMMUNICATIONS SPECIALIST, ALSO CIVIL DEFENSE OPERATOR.....At the drunken age of 17 was given the COMMANDER POSITION of my squadron #27048. THE YOUNGEsT TO EVER DO THAT. THATS just one tiny facet of my life so pack sand yourself..... oh by the way that was all volunteer!!!!! WAS OFFERED A FREE RIDE INTO THE REGULARS AS AN OFFICER........


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    oh yeah wings are for solo in small aircraft single engine........Not bad for a drunken 17 year old...ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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