I was talking with a local taxidermist, who said when first started, he used to shave his hides with a skife until he got enough money for a fleshing machine. I had a hide in the freezer, so I thought I would try it last weekend. My hand and fore arm were cramped up for two days. Anyone else every try this? Is there a good way to shave a whitetail hide without a fleshing machine? I have heard of the grinder, but I am worried about the heat causing slippage.