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Discussion in 'Bird Taxidermy' started by skinner26, Jan 20, 2011.

  1. I have never wrapped a body and I want to try it with a crow. How would I go about doing it?

    Any tips would be helpful.

    Thanks
     
  2. ludvik

    ludvik beginner taxidermist :-)

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    http://www.taxidermy.net/forum/index.php/topic,112381.0.html
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  3. redwolf

    redwolf New Member

    I do them this way now.


    http://www.taxidermy.net/forum/index.php/topic,179052.0.html
     
  4. cyclone

    cyclone Posts: 400001

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  5. Just wondering what the fake-hay-like substance in the middle is called, so that I can buy some. And is the white thread, embroidery floss, like you'd buy at a craft store? Sorry for what might seem like obvious queries, but I am a beginner, and excited to try this.

    edit: I might just go with foam. Not really sure what will make my mount look best without shrinkage.
     
  6. babak

    babak New Member

    helpful tutorials, thank u audvik.

    i have a similar question, why wrapped body?what is the benefits of wrapped bodies rather than a simply carved one?i have no possibility to buy one commercial form but i can easily carve foam instead of that hard steps.actually,i have heard that wood wool can absorb and intake grease from the skin,is this correct?
     
  7. daniel

    daniel New Member

    i dont see the point of adding a piece of foam in the middle seems it would make the body weaker if anything and not hold the wires as firmly but what do i know :-X :-X ...marks method is simular to mine but when starting i add a wire longer than the actuall manikin im making... long enough for the neck and tail lenght wise making a few zig zag bends in the middle of the wire in the center of the body so it dont twist and roll when starting this way you get a much firmer hold on the wire... instead of just sticking it through the manikin when finished which isnt as firm a hold on the wire .....the best d
     
  8. redwolf

    redwolf New Member

    Actually Daniel, it's just the opposite. It holds the wire better by anchoring it into the foam.
     
  9. daniel

    daniel New Member

    i build the manikin around the wire hope you know what i mean i would of thought wood wool would be stronger than foam just my 2 cents everybody to his own ;) d
     
  10. babak

    babak New Member

    hello!!!!helloooo!is there any body?i asked a question!!!! :D ;)
     
  11. Old Fart

    Old Fart New Member

    babak, it's been along time since I made a wrapped wood wool body, but that was one of the "advantages" for that method. I can't say that I saw any advantage over the newer foam bodies. A wrapped wood wool body is no substitute for a well cleaned skin. I'm sure it would absorb some grease, how great that would be is questionable.
     
  12. babak

    babak New Member

    thank you old fart.it was always a question for me because working with wood wool is not very easy .actually,i haven't compared new commercial forms and wrapped bodies,but i talked about my hand carved bodies which is simply carved by foam and for tigh working i simply add some white wood glue on it and wait untill dryness.
     
  13. Having started on wrapped bodies over 30 years ago before the foam bodies, it seemed easy at the time and the way to go. I never really gave it much thought at the time and it worked good. I would rather use foam bodies now-a-days as I really like how the wires secure to the foam and the skin slides on them. I like carving the forms on small birds as I always have scrap foam lying around and it doesn't take long. But at times, I have to wrapped the body which is fast to do and I don't have to wait for an order. It's nice to have an old method to fall back to if needed.
     
  14. I wrapped bodies for quite a while, but I perfer to use foam now. The reason is that on foam I can carve out the slots for the wing bones to sit and get a better wing set, just MO
     
  15. babak

    babak New Member

    as a beginner,i like to experience all of methods.however pre-made forms are not available in my coutry ,foam is plentiful even more than wood wool!
    still i don't understand why some experienced taxidermists like wrapping,while you must draw the carcass border on a paper and wrap and wrap hard woods to each other,easily you can draw the body size on a foam and cut and grind it to favorite shape and size and as cast n blast told you can carve out each excess slots!
     
  16. Old Fart

    Old Fart New Member

    babak, there are different grades of wood wool, some very coarse and some quite fine. The very coarse are not good for wrapping bodies. Wrapping is easier if you soak the wool in warm water for a while. And then details can be "sewn" into the body with a long needle and strong thread. When the wood wool body dries, it will be very hard and holds wire well. However, the body should be totally dry before you use it, so you can't make your body and mount the bird the same day. I have carved foam bodies too, but I've never been able to get foam as dense as the poured commercial bodies.
     
  17. babak

    babak New Member

    well,thank you for perfect answer,definitely, I'll try it.when I'm thinking well,i remember a softer kind of wood wool i have seen in a shop!for preparation of foam i use a white paste that is using in wood industries,i cover the ready foam body with it and wait until dryness,it really works.
     
  18. taxos

    taxos Finches, Buntings

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    I never had the hang of wrapping a body, I always use foam for every size bird.
     
  19. lee tees valley

    lee tees valley tweety luvva.

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    i wrap all birds 8) except realy small tweeties 8) these i carve from foam :) but thrush sized and bigger are all wrapped 8) i personaly i get a better bird when i wrap 8) 8) ;) i dont rely on the woodwool soaking up grease ??? as i clean my birds verrry well 8) babak i also use white wood glue on my wrapped bodies 8) ;)
     
  20. babak

    babak New Member

    thanks for sharing your valuable knowledge,you all acquaint me alot!