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egg tanning

Discussion in 'Tanning' started by hunterboy, Jun 9, 2011.

  1. hunterboy

    hunterboy New Member

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    How does one go about tanning a hide with eggs. How many eggs do you need? How do you apply them? How do you prepare them before the application?
     
  2. You fry them sunny side up and put them on a plate with bacon. Dude you need to go to the archives and do alot of reading before coming on here asking a bunch of stupid questions. Yes, I said STUPID questions.
     

  3. Hartung

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    Hunterboy, you probably picked up the term egg tanning from the web. Egg“tanning“ together with brain“tanning“ is not a method to truly tan a hide. The raison why brains and/or eggs, that is egg yolk, are used is to fat liquor a hide or the hide’s fibers so that you can get the hide soft by stacking it. The softness of a hide is necessary for the next step, that is, the real tanning process.

    A true tanning effect is then obtained by finally smoking the hide. The softer the hide prior to smoking the better the smoke penetration will be, the better the hide will be tanned, smoke tanned.

    What J Brown II probably made an effort to explain was that eggs are not something HE uses in his tanning procedures as a taxidermist. I’ve been using egg yolk for years in my tanning procedures and get excellent results with them. But I’m not a taxi.
     
  4. tuckertan

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    i use egg yolks a lot in my tanning. i have chickens, and egg yolk makes an amazing tanning oil. i mix it with a sulfonated neatsfoot oil for buckskin, and also for tanning sheep hides. i'd recommend the book "Deer Skin to Buckskin" it talks about the whole process in detain. if you have any questions about it, feel free to message me and i'd gladly help you out if you have any questions.

    i must say, that i'm really disappointed in some of the 'elder' folk that participate with this forum. i find smart ass remarks by uneducated people to someone who is new to tanning and came here to learn from people with experience, EXTREMELY disappointing, and completely unmannerly. the only thing that is stupid is how J Brown II replied, your questions are ACCEPTED here, and there are people that will help you out!! so keep posting questions and the right people who know what their talking about will respond.

    J Brown II, it's not cool to discourage people that are new to tanning, didn't your mom ever teach you "if you dont have anything nice to say, DON'T SAY ANYTHING!!" it might be a good lesson for you so you can quit coming across as an ass hole with limited education in your field of work, and maybe you'll learn some new methods by people who reply with adequate information.
     
  5. Remember this Tuckertan! This is a TAXIDERMY website! Your yegg yolk oil is worthless and so are eggs for tanning for TAXIDERMY! There are websites for brain tanning and other PRIMITIVE ways for making leather but it is NOT suitable for taxidermy. Call me an asshole if you like! Won't be the first and surely not the last! The question is stupid because he obviously didn't do ANY research! He just wanted the answers to the test.
     
  6. tuckertan

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    fortunately you're in the TANNING section, and there are many methods of tanning, and it's unfortunate that taxidermist have no clue about primitive methods. sorry to tell you this, but question's are not stupid, people are that don't know how to answer them properly with informed detail.

    it's too bad that people like you limit this website to just taxidermy. i would think that whoever created this website wanted people to connect on a broad spectrum of processing animals. hence the tanning section. which clearly states right under it's title: "Tanning methods, chemicals, fleshing, and commercial tanning." DOESN'T say anything about TAXIDERMY TANNING ONLY.. there's a lot of tanning methods out there, and this is a place to talk about them with people all over the world. so, as long as we can acknowledge that you're an ass, and you're not going to change.

    please stop posting things to new people that are discouraging them. part of the 'research' process is talking to people and gathering information.. and this is such a cool resource for new people, don't ruin it just because you're bitter for no reason.
     
  7. I'm not bitter at all. Just tired of lazy people wanting all the answers to questions that are not related to taxidermy. I have a better knowledge base of tanning than you assume. I started out here close to ten years ago as a tanner, not a taxidermist. Had my chops busted by the best of the best. They will tell you the same thing. Better methods are available for beginners. They just have to work for it like I did.
     
  8. tuckertan

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    there's no reason for it though. why do methods have to be hidden from people that aren't you're direct competition? and why make it more difficult for people that are learning? information should be available, and people should be willing to share what they're learned so new people dont have to make the same mistakes.

    such a bad attitude to maintain over such a beautiful art. people should be able to ask questions, and they should be able to get answers.
     
  9. George

    George The older I get, the better I was.

    tuckertan, you DO understand what John is trying to tell you I hope. It is the "Tanning" section of the TAXIDERMY.Net. No one is trying to "hide" anything from anyone. From our experience, people who come here to talk primitive tans are just too damned lazy to properly research the subject matter they need. You wannabes need to understand that TAXIDERMY is evolving and antiquated methods just reduce our procesls. We even have electric lights. The "Tanning" category was put here for TAXIDERMISTS though we've even had a few ladies visit it over the years asking about "tanning beds" and "suntan oils". This is intended for TAXIDERMY TANNING.
     
  10. tuckertan

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    i completely understand where you're coming from George. but, at the same time i'd like to encourage people to come here to learn all methods, because there are a lot of people here that do a lot of different tanning techniques, and some people dont mind answering peoples questions and helping them in their research. i've connected with a lot of people on here that have helped me learn antiquated methods, and now i'm tanning full time, and have started a little business for myself. where i live, much like a lot of other people, there's aren't any tanners, there's no one to learn from. and luckily we're at a day in age where the internet is an AMAZING resource for learning.

    part of learning is talking to people with experience, going to see their setup, and asking them questions. this is a part of doing the research. and with so many 'experts' on this website you'd figure people want to help each other in a SHARED common interest.

    i've searched the net a lot, and this is the ONLY website with loads of info, and tons of people to talk to about these things.

    taxidermy in it's origin of word means literally "arrangement of skin". i dont feel that it is specifically limited to arranging it on forms. there are many facets to taxidermy and tanning being a HUGE one with a vast diversity of methods. i'm not trying to be stubborn here, all that i'm saying is that i think that people should feel comfortable to come to a place like this on the internet and ask questions, and if some new age taxidermist with electricity thinks that someone is lazy and hate's people asking questions because of methods they dont fully understand, or use.. then they shouldn't post useless info, or comments that are discouraging to others. and in those topics that a newbie started someone will come along and have an answer that has the patients to help someone out.

    why is there no room on this website in the tanning section for other methods? do they get in the way? or are people offended by them? maybe it's time to evolve and open up to antiqued methods, because they're really cool, and fun to play with, and you get good results when a piece works out.

    just out of curiosity, why can't fat liquor tanning, or bark tanning be used when mounting something?
     
  11. George

    George The older I get, the better I was.

    Though your point is well taken, you're still missing the point. YES, there is a plethora of information on a myriad of subjects here, but the intent of the site was to assist TAXIDERMISTS. Tanning is one of the ancillary processes that we require as is "habitat". Over the years, the "bone heads" have come on and, quite frankly, can be damned arrogant when anyone outside their specialty comes aboard. I'm one of the miserable SOB's who reminds them they're just tennants like I'll remind you. We have a few people asking about brain tans and most of us will direct them to that specific website dedicated to brain tanning. So why are WE expected to make accommodations to them when they make none to us. We don't use primitive tans simply because there are much better processes available to us, usually with a much shorter turn around than with the primitive methods.
     
  12. Msbraintan on here is a very good source of information for primitive tans.
     
  13. Pigeon poop made into a paste works perfect see the video!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AS6pAWR9n4&feature=related
     
  14. tuckertan

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    George, it's unfortunate that you that SOB.. and regardless of what you, or any other taxi vet has to say, i think that it's a good idea for this website to evolve and be more open and sharing with primitive methods. so instead of discouraging people by writing some useless message about how this site isn't for those methods or something, DON'T write anything at all, and other people that want to participate with those conversations will write something, and help people out that need it.

    new topics DO NOT get in the way from any one, if the topic isn't for you, and you don't have anything ENCOURAGING to say, then DON'T say anything at all, there's no need.

    WHY NOT LET THE SITE BE OPEN TO ALL QUESTIONS?? i understand that it initially started as a taxidermy site, but people are curious about other methods, and with the amount of people that come through this site, there's A LOT of information, and people that are willing to share, PLEASE leave those conversations alone.. you're actually wasting more time writing something about how one method is useless to you, when it's actually extremely valuable to other people..

    thanks!
     
  15. FurNFeathers

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    Tuckertan
    I'm with you 100% these stubborn old farts can't tell secrets if there old asz depended on it. I had the same problem they don't know what research others have done. Some may just not simply understand a topic such as I did. There is a few good people on this web site.

    LET THE QUESTIONS COME!!!!!!!!!
     
  16. FurNFeathers

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    you're actually wasting more time writing something about how one method is useless to you, when it's actually extremely valuable to other people..



    Cuz they are sitting in there wheel chair waitin for their wife to bring supper. Not much else they can do boss!!!!
     
  17. George

    George The older I get, the better I was.

    Tucker, are you a real taxidermist or just another wannabe hanging here so your pretentions can sound good. No one ever said you couldn't ASK a question, but that means when it's a dumbass question and someone tells you it is, that's the price you pay. Just how many hides have YOU tanned using eggs? How must TAXIDERMY have you done USING egg tans? So if you don't want to be called a dumbass, don't ask dumbass questions. Seems like that's a simple trade off for your ideal of blowing roses up someone's ass about "there's no such thing as a stupid question". Perhaps. But then there are enough stupid people out there trying to do taxidermy work to refute that claim.
     
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  18. Nancy C

    Nancy C Well-Known Member

    George, sometimes I agree with you, sometimes I don't. This is one of those times when I don't.

    Think about it. Would you use bark tanned leather for taxidermy? Or brain tanned leather? Do you think they could have any valid purpose in taxidermy?

    How about, perhaps, covering an antler panel mount or the back of a pedestal mount - especially if those animals were taken with primitive weapons? Would that be a valid purpose?
    Several taxidermy suppliers sell vegetable tanning supplies right alongside their other tanning supplies. Maybe they know something that you haven't considered.
    Personally, I don't see why you feel the need to protect (?) this website from subjects that don't seem to be immediately relevant to taxidermy. You, of all people, (since you have been around the block a few times) should know that there are almost NO craft-related subjects that don't end up being applicable to taxidermy at some point or other.

    Flower preservation, faux marble finishing, hair coloring and bleaching, woodworking, molding and casting, metalworking, painting techniques .... it goes on and on. Asking a question about primitive tanning methods doesn't seem all that odd when you take it in context.

    Lighten up, man! Save your ire for the current events forum.
     
  19. tuckertan

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    George, i'm learning, and when you live in the middle of no where, with no other people in the field of work, it's a hard thing to learn, so i come online. it looks like you're the dumb ass here, sorry to say..

    thanks for all the support people!!! it's nice to see that people agree, and maybe it's time for the old farts stuck in their ways to get over themselves and open up to new people that have question!!!!!!
     
  20. George

    George The older I get, the better I was.

    Tucker you math isn't much better than your assumption that I'm "stuck in my ways". I make a conscious effort to stay ahead of the learning curve. No one ever lived any farther back "in the sticks" than I did but it you ever intend to be a taxidermist you need to look in front of you instead of behind. There IS a market from primitive tanning methods, but for a production operation or the increased chances of a quality product, that's not it.

    Nancy you've read that wrong. I don't mind the discussion but the first thing that happens is that someone tries to feed us TAXIDERMISTS that we "need" to encourage antiquated methods. Now let me ask you as a bird specialist what if someone told you that all you needed to preserve your skins was salt. Do you think you'd be so accommodating? I seriously doubt that.