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Has anyone Tanned Africans with Alum/Auto Tanner?

Discussion in 'Tanning' started by falco, Aug 18, 2011.

  1. falco

    falco Trapping is fun

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    Just wondering if we get a good result from rehydrating salted african capes and tan them the way we do raw capes with Alum in the auto tanner ?
    Any tips ?
    Cheers.
     
  2. George

    George The older I get, the better I was.

    Tips? Yes. Send them out to a professional tannery.
     

  3. falco

    falco Trapping is fun

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    Agree,
    But I bet you wouldnt say this if you were living up here in Canada.
    I would love to send them out to Tanneries, but how about 18 months wait time and then you hear that it hasnt been touched yet ::)
    So there.
    Thats why I need to do them myself.
    Thanks for the tip though :D
     
  4. George

    George The older I get, the better I was.

    Falco, there has to be more than one tannery in Canada. I'd find it.
     
  5. falco give me a call i can hook you up with a guy that doesnt take that long and he does lots of African stuff. 403-874-0880
     
  6. falco

    falco Trapping is fun

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    George, There are lots of Tannery, but the best of them I have spoken to , told me 12 months at least for africans and now its 18 months and they havent touched it,, I talked to another one in Winnipeg and siad 18 months minimum. They take about 4 months to send you back your Bear which is their regular work,, leave alone the rest.
    if everything was 4-5 months I wouldnt care as I wouldnt start the job anyways.
    and then I talked to Fur Dresseers in Montana, they said 45 days,,, the difference is unbelievable .

    1Hella, I will give you buz, thanks.
     
  7. George

    George The older I get, the better I was.

    Pretty obvious how spoiled American taxidermists are. Sorry to hear that Falco.
     
  8. Don

    Don New Member

    Call my buddy Ashley Fequet {15146945630}. He is in Pointe Claire Quebec. He will get the stuff done in 3 weeks if you need it ASAP.
    Great guy, and you will have no worries about the quality or turn-around time. He has been working in the tannery business 30+ years.

    Later,

    Don
     
  9. tazzymoto

    tazzymoto Well-Known Member

    Falco I have done african in my pressure tanner with great results! The only hides i send out are bears for wall hanger and rugs,and flat hides
     
  10. falco

    falco Trapping is fun

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    Hey Tazzymoto,,, thanks, thats good to know, Did you use any commercial relaxing solution or you just rehydrate them in soapy water ? and also you used Alum tanning chrystal , right ?
    Cheers
     
  11. tazzymoto

    tazzymoto Well-Known Member

    I used Rittle's relaxer and aluminumsulphate
     
  12. Rhino

    Rhino Too many irons in the fire will put the fire out!

    I agree with Hudson, and want to elaborate a little more on what he stated.

    First off, alum wont go any lower than 3.0 on the pH scale. This alone, is going to make African a problem to shave, because you wont be able to add a surfactant to this solution, because the pH will rise too high, and you will lose epidermis.

    African is difficult to fully rehydrate in a rehydration bath, and will often require the addition of a surfactant degrease, to the pickle, to speed things up. Using alum for the pickle, is a bad choice, for african.

    You will HAVE TO use seperate steps. Rehydration bath, in a static tank, then to pickle(with a real acid) in your AT. Then seperate bath using the aluminum sulphate as the tannage.

    In my opinion, those old ways of using alum for a pickle and tan, are WAY outdated, and those type of procedures are really a half-a55ed way of doing things.

    Falco, I am not ragging on you personally, but, I just think that if you move away from that old method, and take the time to do a multi-step procedure, you will notice a BIG difference in stretch, and ease of mounting!

    To answer your origional question, yes, it can be done on probablly everything hartebeeste size, and smaller, with proper techniques.