Other than putting counties instead of wmu's, I don't hunt or live near the "special" 3 wmu's mentioned. I live/hunt in the "experimental" 2D wmu. I don't know the reg/harvest report in Wisconsin either. Like I said, the supporters of Mr. Alt will have your opinions and I will have mine. Take a drive up to the north western tier of PA and do some spotting. In my youth when we had a camp up north it was common to spot 300 deer in an evening. You'd be hard pressed to see 20 now. Wisconsin is going to have two, maybe three people deciding the future of their sport. It would be in the sportmans best interest to find out which side they are really on and then run them out on a rail, like we did in PA !!! As I was typing the people from 5C joined in, so I"ll add: so 107,157 hunters went into the woods in 5C and took home 24,000 doe that's only a 22.39 success rate. To me that means 83,157 hunters paid for a doe tag and got nothing. Yep, Mr. Alts plan seems to be working just fine. Let's see, 83,157 x $6 = $498,942 now work those numbers for each wmu's and we're getting somewhere. Maybe this is the first time reporting rates have been accurate, even the people doing it say it's an educated guess. I went to the PA game commission website and saw clearly that the deer harvest has been steadily on the decline since 2003 in 5C. 2003 = 54% dropping every year to 2010 = 36 % (I brought up a pdf chart that was submitted to Harrisburg.) For those that hunt Pennsylvania: Do you honestly feel that hunting is better now than before certain plans were instituted? (I know youth have more opportunities, but I'm talking about you as an adult hunter.) I can clearly say that the deer are not in our area like they were before. Msestak, I too get off the road and did find that hidden treasure this year. This thread has served it's purpose and I hope the Wisconsin hunters read it carefully. I can only pray that my childrens children will have some deer left to hunt in PA. They'll be able to buy a license I'm sure, but there will probably only be 2 deer per wmu.