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MY OPINION of the McKenzie 6900

Discussion in 'The Taxidermy Industry' started by George, Jan 28, 2012.

  1. George

    George The older I get, the better I was.

    This is strictly MY OPINION and I'm a person who's been a McKenzie user for decades. The new 6900 series was immediately attractive to me simply because of the brisket sculpting. This is the closest that I've ever found a manikin brisket to be. Exceptionally well done.

    I liked many of the facial qualities with the older "Roman" nose appearance as well as the dewlap formation under the chin.

    NOW, if they'd have just stopped there and installed the 6500 series neck and face, I'd have been much happier. IN MY OPINION the upper neck muscles have been over sculpted and look grotesque if mounted as sold. (I ground hell out of mine to give it more cleaner lines.) The show side shoulder also seem over exaggerated.

    Now I freely admit that this is just MY OPINION,but I've been blessed in my life to have been around some truly big deer, both wild and penned up. My deer Willow had a 25 inch neck under the jaw in his prime and was as "rutted up" as any deer I've ever seen. I've shot Canadian brutes that pushed 400 pounds. Still, in all those deer, I never saw any hint of the detailing I see on this manikin.

    Sure, I'll continue to use them. I do love that brisket and would hope that they convert their entire line to his mockup. But I can see me having to grind down all that extra "goiter" in the neck areas.
     
  2. fozziebear

    fozziebear Active Member

    I agree with a few things ya said der regarding the neck muscles , but I'm justa rookie, so I'm just gonna pull up a seat and grab some popcorn for this one ;)
     

  3. Randy Miller

    Randy Miller Active Member




    Aw, just let it drum, You'll be fine. Save $ on paste.
     
  4. You gotta shoot the ones on steroids.
     
  5. taxidermy28

    taxidermy28 New Member

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    lol totally worth it!!!
     
  6. michael p.

    michael p. Getting better with age :)

    I like the muscle detail for South Texas deer. Is it 100% anatomically correct? No. But is that the detail 99% of customers want? Most definatelly :)
     
  7. John Panter

    John Panter New Member

    It is weird that customers want that. Last time I checked there were no whitetail deer bodybuilding competitions.
     
  8. Trotax

    Trotax Member

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    I think theyre one of those lovem, hatem forms. Some customers lovem, some hatem.
     
  9. BDrake

    BDrake Active Member

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    I agree on the mis shaped neck, I have only used one and it was a small buck 7" E-N
    I see alot more 8" E-N than 7 1/2 deer around here.
    I do love the proportions of the features on the face.
    Briscuit does take up extra hide more easily, but I have never had much issue with the other McKenzie series that I have used.
    Put a 6900 head on a 6500 form! Just sayin
     
  10. Matt

    Matt Active Member

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    I have about 30 of those forms sitting and waiting to go on the stand, and about 10 of them are the biggest they mold so far. They are some really big necks on these guys! I do like alot of changes on the form, but I agree on the swell being a bit overdone. That's an easy fix though so no complaints here, looking forward to putting a cape on one hopefully soon.
     
  11. Cory

    Cory Keep an eye on quality!

    I see what everyone is seeing in the "overdone" muscle detail in the form. But, just because its there, you don't have to overwork it. Subtle working on the lines with the correct glue will give most the look they are looking for without drumming. However, it seems to be human, if the sculptor put hard lines there, we "overwork" the definition from the outside. Go easy and most will give it the look George is after. Most customers in my shop carry in their own McKenzie pics from online or somewhere else saying "I want this!" The over detailed forms win out with them 90% of the time. Some picture showing of live bucks in the wild and explaining the "marketing technique" towards the consumer will normally bring them around to "our" way of thinking.
     
  12. Bill Yox

    Bill Yox Well-Known Member

    I wont name names and bust you, but ONE of you here commenting negatively ought to pay more attention to YOUR forms, and less on the McKenzie. Yes, the mods DO know who posts. 8)
     
  13. BDrake

    BDrake Active Member

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    i know a guy who mods on another type of forum, he could see all the info in profiles and pm`s.
    He would show me some funny stuff.
    Anyways, Overall I really do like the new form, as well as most of the kenzie series.
    I wish there where more sizes on the HDU series...I know, I should spend the time and alter my forms...that is my personal favotite on upright forms.
     
  14. Mason

    Mason Active Member

    I agree BDrake,

    Those are my favorite forms of McKenzies as well.
     
  15. Bwana

    Bwana New Member

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    I've only mounted on one of the 6900's and I love it. I am in Iowa and have alway been a fan of the Meder forms. This new 6900 is now my favorite form and I am sure it will become a customer favorite too!
     
  16. To the Taxidermist that have used the form. Has anyone used a 18'' on this form. I have one and I would like to try this form out.
     
  17. fozziebear

    fozziebear Active Member

    This one was 17"
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  18. Randy Miller

    Randy Miller Active Member

    Pretty mount!
     
  19. I put this on a few other post but I guess sometimes we have to say "The customer is always right!". LOL!! By that I mean when several customer come into my shop they mention something about a huge next followed by a look at this pic. I have to explain that is a picture of a dead deer. The neck is all collapsed and twisted up for the Hall of Fame picture album. Most are willing to listen but still want some form of large neck which I will provide without sacrificing the integrity of the stitches or the mount itself.

    I guess I'm just trying to educate them on what a deer looks like that is alive! Here's something I do because I got tired of fighting it. As we know, putting the white in the back of both eyes can be a big NO NO. Try a mount by putting the white in the front corner of one eye and the back of the other depending on the turn. I know you already do this with no problems.......I can't for some stupid reason. Some customers will look at you like you are crazy. It' looks odd to them, not natural like it actually is. So, even though I know it's wrong, I put the white in the back of both eyes and haven't received one complaint. Do it the other way and I will hear about it. Wouldn't dare do that on a competition mount if I still competed though.

    I like the 6900 and the customers I've had so far like it as well. So for commercial work......thumbs up!
     
  20. coondoggie

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    NICE MOUNTS FOZZIE !