Any of u guys remember they Paasche Turbo... I had nothing but problems with i back in the day...lol.. now its a paper weight. I Thought boy if I get that I gonna be able to do such cool art.. .. Practice makes perfect no matter what gun u wheel... I also have a old thayer & chandler love that little girl blows heavier base paint like no there. It's all in your needles, paint, dyes, air control set ups, & comfort level..