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cape went bad

Discussion in 'Deer and Gameheads' started by hunting freak, Mar 3, 2012.

  1. bamaboy

    bamaboy New Member

    haha definitely knew that would raise some eyebrows.... i didnt think of it on my own i was told to try it and i worked fine for me..... krowtann is just a touchy subject on here..lol
  2. Mr.T

    Mr.T Active Member

    It isn't the Krowtann, it is the incorrect instructions you posted about the baking soda/ Sodium Bicarbonate.
    Look at the ingredients of your baking soda box and tell us what it is.

  3. bamaboy

    bamaboy New Member

    yeah i realize that baking soda is sodium bicarbonate... but is it solely that... if it is then i learned something today..
  4. Mike Powell

    Mike Powell Well-Known Member

    The baking soda you use after tanning (krowtan) is to neutralize the acidic tan/pickle. What hunting freak was asking about was relaxing a hide to get extra stretch, which if used in excess in either amount or in time applied will cause the hide to stretch, pores to open, and the hair to fall out. And yes, the hair falling out was due directly to the amount of baking soda being applied for that amount of time. The hair falling out had nothing to do with the tanner.
  5. cyclone

    cyclone Posts: 400001

    Read the ingredients on your box.
  6. cyclone

    cyclone Posts: 400001

    Bull, a properly tanned/well cared for cape will not do that..Baking soda is not that harsh.
  7. hunting freak

    hunting freak New Member

    So if the amount of baking soda I used was to much, what was the correct amount to use and the period of time to leave it on. Also after I got the skin to relax, I still had to stretch the hide with force. Thanks in advance for any suggestions!
  8. bamaboy

    bamaboy New Member

    hunting freak im sincerely appologize if i mislead you by my response... i greatly respect these guys advice and techniques they offer... even when u think its a stupid question just ask some will give you the wrong answer(me) and others will correct it.. lol cyclone and Mr. T thanks for giving me a little slack haha and i understand what yall are saying!
  9. hounddoggy

    hounddoggy Member

    thaw wash flesh powder spray with stoprot bag and fridge overnight prep form USE EPOGRIP call customerand move on to the next one unless youregetting 450-500 per head the tanning or sending off aint worth the dang trouble a guy posted on here that he sent of capes to some tannery and didnt get them back till august. i took in 93 deer this year and will be done by april 10th without rushing they want a good looking head that wont breAk the bank and they dont want to have to wait so long they forget what the deer looks like i tanned all of my capes last year with trubond that tan is awesome i had plenty of repeat customers and they loved this years heAd as much as last year got it quicker and life goes on. spend your money on good glue prep the hell out of your forms and you will be fine
  10. I dontknow w
    here to hell you found that formula, for baking soda but I have never seen anyone use that much and you dont need to anything other than abit on the inside.

    2 table spoons to a gallon of water and go very slowly with adding it to the hide.

    Sounds like you have a problem and jumped to a conclusion and over did it.
  11. cyclone

    cyclone Posts: 400001

    Sal soda and baking soda are not the same chemical. Sal soda (aka sodium carbonate) is much more harsh for our purposes that is baking soda (aka sodium bicarbonate).

    If I were in HF's situation, the first thing I would have done would have been to contact the tannery and ask them for instructions...

    If that didn't pan out I would have determined the pH of the tanned, finished cape and gone from there..with bicarb.

    Now what HF didn't tell us is if he rinsed the bicarb solution off of the cape well after his treatment..The 30 min. treatment he described is not going to ruin a cape that is tanned properly.
  12. Rhino

    Rhino Too many irons in the fire will put the fire out!

    Soda ash BAD! Baking soda GOOD!
  13. cyclone

    cyclone Posts: 400001

    Dad-gum OS....you scare me..
  14. kurt

    kurt Member

    Thats some funny chit there!
  15. hunting freak

    hunting freak New Member

    yes I did wash the cape directly after using the baking soda.