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Deer in Yard Behaving Strangely - Sick?? Safe to Work With Hide?

Discussion in 'Beginners' started by RedWolf7, Jun 20, 2012.

  1. RedWolf7

    RedWolf7 Member

    I'm asking if any of you have experience with a deer whose behavior is odd. A friend had a white tail doe show up in his front yard and vigorously attack his dogs with strikes and head butts. The dogs are herding breeds and tried to run the deer off, to no avail. My friend tried to run the deer off without success. After 3 days of this, the deer finally lay down on his lawn, head up. He fired a shot over her head, hoping the loud bang would scare her off. No reaction. As he walked straight up to her she looked at him and snorted but didn't bother to get up. He finally placed a single pistol shot in her head and killed her. We wondered how prevalent rabies is in deer, and if this type of behavior would have any other cause. There were no fawns around, and her bag was dry. Is it safe to handle the meat and hide? Many thanks for any insight into this.

    SWIFFY Member

    Sounds like quite a story.... ???

    On several occasions, Ive heard of does beating the hell out of dogs when they had fawns around and felt threatened by the dog.

    Did they contact the sherriff or DNR/ Game & Fish to come and evaluate the situation? Or did he just take it upon himself to shoot the deer in the head because it was bedded in his yard?

    Im sure the hide is fine... but if he/you were concerned about an illness after 3 days of the deer hanging around, why wouldn't you have called someone who could have possibly helped?

    Shoot first and ask questions later.... thats not the way to do it! Dumb.

  3. ryanolson72

    ryanolson72 Active Member

    Ya, my guess is that she was protecting her fawns. I say shoot the dogs if they are running deer!
  4. Mike Powell

    Mike Powell Well-Known Member

    Sounds like Chronic Wasting Disease (CWD) similar to mad cow disease. Hide should be OK. Not so sure about the meat. I've heard meat can be eaten if you take care and don't cut through the bone (disease is in brain and bone marrow). It would have been wise to contact your local game dept. first as if it is CWD they need to know about it.
  5. cyclone

    cyclone Posts: 400001

    Consumption of copious amounts of alcohol will cause many people to act the same way...i.e. shooting game out of season without a valid reason...

    Nice that you can diagnose the problem over the internet....and are an expert on handling CWD. How about he packages up the meat and sends it to you for consumption? What is the DNR going to do about it? Remove it, have it tested and close down the area to hunting?
  6. We had a deer hanging around also, we petted it, it stayed in the yard for a while,
    then went back home. Come to find out, it was raised since fawn, was very tame,
    but after so long unless you have a permit, you have to release them.
    Deer wanders aroung for a day and then goes back to where it was raised.
    The ears are tagged, but I am sure some idiot will shoot it come this season.
  7. RedWolf7

    RedWolf7 Member

    His dogs were in his own yard attempting to run the deer off. They were not out running deer. A deer that is a threat can be disposed of at any time; they are not sacred. She had no milk in her udder; there have been no fawn sightings. We weren't sure if the game warden needed to be involved in this since it was removal of a potential sick animal. A deer that is simply bedded down isn't going to ignore a shot over its head nor allow someone to walk right up to it. I'm not looking for a firm diagnosis. Obviously the tissue would have to be examined for that. I'm simply asking if anyone has observed the behavior and if the animal turned out to be rabid or have CWD or other. Let's not jump to conclusions.
  8. George

    George The older I get, the better I was.

    Sounds to me as if you killed a perfectly healthy deer for no reason. This time of year, ESPECIALLY, does will "hang around" their fawning sites. If this doe was a "rehabilitated abandoned" fawn, she's already tolerant to humans but dogs are a different matter. Her actions are particularly indicative of this situation. CWD does not include lethargy until it's final stages. She would have been skin and bones by that time and she wouldn't have lifted her head or snorted. Rabies, though possible, is extremely doubtful as you describe none of the symptoms that accompany it (Frothing at the mouth). If she had been rabid, she wouldn't have just attacked dogs but anything within sight (if it was aggressive rabies) or simply layed around seldom moving (if it was the dumb rabies). I'd bet when you shot her, you also killed one or two fawns closeby.
  9. Don Jahner

    Don Jahner Well-Known Member

    He should of called the DNR right after he shot it, matter of fact, it's not to late.
  10. ortegageno

    ortegageno Active Member

    Hell I think you should be more concerned about the game and fish showing up at your door than working on the hide. As wildlife officers visit this site also. You just can't shoot a deer because it's laying in your yard. Good luck to your friend. You might just receive a reward for turning him in.
  11. Mr.T

    Mr.T Active Member

    I hope he gets a citation for illegally shooting a deer out of season, and no hunting license. What gives him the right to do that? A threat? It was probably a tame deer as George suggested.
  12. x2, I think it was tame
  13. fozziebear

    fozziebear Active Member

    I think I'm gonna go sit in the in-laws backyard tonight
    and get threatened by the first OR 2nd deer that walks
    tonight lmao ! HONESTLY MAN I know of NO law
    that says you can shoot a deer out of season cuz you
    feel threatened.
  14. TD

    TD My GGG Grandfather John "Tanner John" King b 1820

    dam if I would of shot her ................
    I doubt if She would have killed My dogs lol
  15. franchi612

    franchi612 New Member

    this is some kind of joke right?
  16. michael p.

    michael p. Getting better with age :)

    Oh do not worry Lisa McDonald, they are going to be involved now. I CANNOT stand a POACHER! 3 days....and your friends were too stupid and ignorant to call Texas Parks & Wildlife and they ILLEGALLY shot this doe in the head out of season?!

    You said 'A deer that is a threat can be disposed of at any time', but then you said the deer was 'laying in his front yard and he WALKED UP TO THE DEER AND SHOT IT'! WOW! What a threat! I do not know who the hell you or your friends think you are Lisa McDonald, but this has all been screen shot in case you decide to delete it and is being turned over to the Fayette County Game Warden in the morning so that he can contact your Game Wardens in Brazos County. I do not think I have ever been as pissed off on here as I am now reading about your friends ignorance and complete lack of respect for our Texas natural resources and its game laws.

    3 days, no call, 1 execution. Well we will find out tomorrow just how 'sacred' that deer really was. I'm sure the people who hired you from Texas A&M will be pleased to find out how 'unsacred' our game animals are to you and your friend.

    Please do not delete this post and do not dispose of that deer Lisa McDonald, as I said, it's been screenshot and saved....


    It would not look good knowing you tried to destroy any evidence.

    Don't think for a second I do not know who you are, I know exactly who you are.....


    My only advice to you is that you call the Brazos Valley Parks & Wildlife and turn your friend in before 9:00AM in the morning or have them do it..... because I'm picking up the phone at 9:00 AM

    There are many nuisance cases that exist where the deer are destroying wildlife or are actually posing a threat. Texas and it's Game Officers and citizens are known for dealing with the situation ethically and legally. When Lone Rangers start deciding when, where, how and why and deer at any time (especially out of season) will be destroyed then we will revert to the same horrid population numbers the Brazos Valley and Central Texas suffered in the 60's and 70's. Too many people's hard earned time and money have went into management to increase the herd to the good numbers we have today..... no way will I or others stand by and see that work spit upon by a few self righteous individuals.

    9:00 AM I am making the call.... what you choose to do before then is totally on you.


    Michael P. Schlabach
  17. fozziebear

    fozziebear Active Member

  18. Re: Re: Deer in Yard Behaving Strangely - Sick?? Safe to Work With Hide?

    Yea and fact I'm sure there r plenty of game wardens who happen to look on here whoever you r I hope u do the right thing Michael is correct Texas wildlife and fisheries has done a lot of work to get there herd were it is and they don't need people illegally takin wildlife so thanks Michael for doing the right thing and reporting what's has been done and I'm sure justice will come from it

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  19. Bill Dishman

    Bill Dishman Well-Known Member

    Good for you Michael, turning them in is the right thing to do. We cant have everyone going around playing "wildlife biologist" and culling wildlife at thier own discretion. Maybe a fine will drive the point home.
    That Doe most likely had a fawn (probably 2) stashed nearby that are dead too because of this persons arrogance and ignorance.
  20. Jdewitt27

    Jdewitt27 New Member

    Wow can't believe this. Lets say even if you thought you had a viable reason to shoot a sick or strange acting animal near your home out of season, why WOULDN'T you call the local game wardens to come take the animal, test it and let you know if you had rabies or CWD affecting the wildlife in your area? Any updates on this situation would be greatly appreciated as it goes down.