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Any help with VA Voc rehab?

Discussion in 'Beginners' started by boarzhead, Jul 10, 2012.

  1. boarzhead

    boarzhead God created man... Samuel Colt made them equal!

    I am a disabled vet and wanting to attend taxidermy school. I have done some mounts in past as hobby but due to injuries in Army I cannot perform my work as mechanic. Well I have been working with the VA for over 5 months and they keep giving me the run around. I went through SBA to do my business plan and everything. Business plan when completed was 62 pages. I just got email today from my counciler for final analysis and he said no..... He said only way they will put me through school is if I get a letter of intent to hire from taxidermist. Well you know no taxidermist in my area would do that cause they dont want competition. So Any ideas on what to do. I also emailed Sen. McCain today to show him how vets get treated. Thank You.. Jay
     
  2. roundyracer

    roundyracer been to the mountain and seen the elephant.usmc 68

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    Vet,research all the schools you can pullup on the net.Im thinking there was or is one school that excepts the GI Bill. This was a long time back though.You might consider some art classes at a local college.Best of all click on Surry College in N.C. They have a full taxidermy program and being a credited school this may be your ticket.Good luck'Keep us posted.
     

  3. Mr.T

    Mr.T Active Member

    You did respond to him that taxidermist are self employed? And that you would be self employed.
     
  4. boarzhead

    boarzhead God created man... Samuel Colt made them equal!

    Thanks. I used my gibill for auto and diesel technology and got degree but my foot and back got worse so I cant perform the job. So thats why i was using voc rehab.I told my councelor everything about how it is self employment thats why I got the run around and had to goto SBA Small business addmin.
     
  5. I have to agree with the counselor. You have a bad back, your taxidermy life is going to suck, your back is going to hurt morning noon and night.

    Just doing a few mounts and liking that is not even close to the same as working 50-60 hours a week to run your own shop.

    VA Voc rehab is not set up to put you in business, but to put you to where you can make a better living. The letter you ask other taxidermist to provide as letter of intent, well sad but true that hangs them out to hire you. regardless of your intent to open a shop. Getting taxidermy training does not mean you can do the business of taxidermy.
     
  6. boarzhead

    boarzhead God created man... Samuel Colt made them equal!

    my back would be fine. its just working on cars being bent over a hood all day wouldnt work. If i need to sit down I could on a stool and continue working. I dont need nothing for them to put me in business except the training.
     
  7. George

    George The older I get, the better I was.

    Well Boarzhead, there are a lot of us veterans on here and many of us are disabled as well. (Is old and senile a disability). Most of us got NADA from the VA . If you want to be a taxidermist, they can't teach you talent and talent is in big demand here. Like John C. said, you're going to be in for a rude awakening on the bent back issue as well. My disability is also my back and I have a nice stool and a foam rubber work pad that does me not one damned bit of good when I get on that fleshing machine. Much of the tedious work has me bent over that work table. So forgive us if we aren't more sympathetic to your problems. We suffer our own and refuse to let it be an issue.

    Start talking to Bill Dishman. He runs a school and I know he deals with the VA more than most of us are even interested in doing.
     
  8. Mr.T

    Mr.T Active Member

    John does has a good point, we are not trying to chase you away, but the money is in the bigger jobs, life size animals, Bears, big game heads, and African work. Setting down doing fishes and birdies will get you groceries and maybe gas for the truck. You got to do what you got to do. I have a spinal fusion, and work at a studio that does big jobs, I get babied when it comes to lifting things around the shop, but it is still hard work, and when you have a body part complaining to you 24/7, any job will be a test, even taxidermy. Good luck, and take Bill Dishmans advice.
     
  9. EA

    EA Well-Known Member

    I could be wrong, but a letter of intent is not an Ironclad contract. It only states you have intentions of hiring and you are not locked into anything. Conditions and situations change and no one is going to say "Hey, you committed to paying this guy for a year". If thats what you want to do, get innovative. Maybe someone could use a short term hand and will put you to work for a day or a week just to cover the stipulation. BUT, these guys would know if your back is going to be a problem.
     
  10. boarzhead

    boarzhead God created man... Samuel Colt made them equal!

    Thank you. I dont mean to come across as a person to complain about my injuries. I suck it up like all you do. I do hydrographics and it pays good but do it out of my garage. I want to do taxidermy cause I love it and I know alot of hunters and fishermen. I have done it for a hobby and do my stuff but really want to do it legaly for clients. I got into hydrographics to do skulls but most of my work has been guns and car parts. This is not why god put me on the earth. I have more respect for animals on this planet then most people I meet. And its my goal in life. Thank you for all your input both bad and good cause it makes me look at all aspects. I have enough money to pay for school but thats my savings to open my shop. So if I pay for school Im without shop and here in AZ cant do taxidermy in garage when its 119 degrees....
     
  11. boarzhead

    boarzhead God created man... Samuel Colt made them equal!

    Its not set in stone. But noone in area would do this. Maybe your idea could work but would have to find a good person for this. And today in this world it is hard to trust someone you dont know. So I dont expect anyone to do this...
     
  12. EA

    EA Well-Known Member

    Like I said, get innovative. Sounds like the guy just wants to cover his azz and needs a paper trail. If you need a license in your state maybe a wife or a brother gets it . That is, if a test is not required to become licensed. Here I think, it's a $100 and No Test ? (could be wrong) They send a letter and just let their license expire. They guy might make a call, but I have my doubts he goes for an onsite visit. You're in your dream job and out a few bucks.

    I do know that if I had my sights on becoming a taxidermist, then I'm [email protected] sure going to end up a taxidermist. Stay positive. You sound like you're bummed and giving up. Just a Minor road block. Get out and network, offer to help someone somewhere. If nothing else, it may test your back in real life situations. Just some thoughts for outside the box.. Good Luck
     
  13. boarzhead

    boarzhead God created man... Samuel Colt made them equal!

    Thank you. I know i sound bumbed cause im so mad. Not giving up they just threw fuel on the fire. I WILL goto school no mater what.
     
  14. roundyracer

    roundyracer been to the mountain and seen the elephant.usmc 68

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    Thanks roundyracer for leading me towards some schools anyway
     
  15. boarzhead

    boarzhead God created man... Samuel Colt made them equal!

    I looked into the on in NC but its spread out over like 2 years.
     
  16. Mr.T

    Mr.T Active Member

    Look up John Griffith here in the Tutorials. You know, you can go to different teachers for different critters, you do not need to do it all at one "school". Generally you only get the basics at the schools, even though they tell you that you are ready for business after a few mounts.
     
  17. boarzhead

    boarzhead God created man... Samuel Colt made them equal!

    Thank you. Ill look at that
     
  18. Sarge

    Sarge A little too much Lord *hic*

    I played the VA's Games for 1 1/2 years and went so far as to get letters of recommendation from over 50 people here. Well respected full time Taxidermists and I did all the research on just about every way you can classify it as a professional career and I got told to keep jumping through more hoops.

    Then I found my State Vocational rehab office and they looked at all the paper and work I had and asked me to come back for an appointment in a week and when I got there they had reviewed everything and asked me which school I wanted to attend and what tools and supplies I needed when I returned to get started. I started the school within a month and placed my orders with the the Suppliers and by the time I was done with school I had a shop full of stuff to unpack and get going. The VA will keep you hanging on a file folder hook as long as they can because you are an open case and they get credit for helping you even though they are stringing you along and wasting your life.

    Hope this helps

    Jeff
     
  19. boarzhead

    boarzhead God created man... Samuel Colt made them equal!

    Wow. Thats alot. I have done so much but what were the letters of reccomendations for. I will contact state office tommorow and see what happens. Thanks
     
  20. Sarge

    Sarge A little too much Lord *hic*

    The Letters were to try and prove that Taxidermy is a valid Profession

    Jeff