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snake ID please??

Discussion in 'Reptile Taxidermy' started by bmdakk, Nov 1, 2012.

  1. bmdakk

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    My son was walking out in the yard today and this crawled across his foot. We just had 10" of snow that melted off today. It is 50 degrees outside. what kinda snake is this? thanks.
     

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    belly
     

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  5. I'm not at all an expert in snakes, but it looks like a common water snake that I used to see in Missouri all the time.


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  6. rogerswildlife

    rogerswildlife Rogers Wildlife Taxidermy Tommy Rogers

    Grey rat snake
     
  7. Kerby Ross

    Kerby Ross KSU - Class of '83; U.S. Army - Infantry (83-92)

    It is.....

    It is a juvenile Black rat snake.

    :)

    Kerby...
     
  8. steamvalley

    steamvalley some cleaned and dipped skulls

    common water snake. I have several that live in my pond.
     
  9. Kerby Ross

    Kerby Ross KSU - Class of '83; U.S. Army - Infantry (83-92)

    IT IS A....

    It is a juvenile Black rat snake. That is not a water snake!

    :)

    Kerby...
     
  10. steamvalley

    steamvalley some cleaned and dipped skulls

    the black rat snakes live in water?
     
  11. steamvalley

    steamvalley some cleaned and dipped skulls

    kerby you are right.
     
  12. According to some of the guys I work with, its a rattle headed copper mocasin
     
  13. komodo_28

    komodo_28 New Member

    Yupp, thats a small black rat snake. The water snakes I have seen tend to have heavily keeled scales and the belly pattern is a dead give away for me.
     
  14. This can be one of several species...

    1) Juvenile Rat Snake

    2) Milk Snake- has a checkered belly, and on the back of the head would be a light colored "Y" or "V" shape right on the nape of the neck.

    3) Corn Snake- marked identical to the milk snake with a few exceptions depending on the time of year. Early out of hybernation they are dark like this. later in the warmer
    weather they turn light brown almost orangest. There is also no "Y" or "V"

    4) Common water snake-

    Either way its definately non-venomous
     
  15. X2 thats what it is....
     
  16. Common West Virginia Snow snake,
     
  17. Ron B

    Ron B Life Sucks.....Then comes the death roll!!!!

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    Looks like a perfect corn snake to me!
     
  18. joeym

    joeym Jeannette & Joey @ Dunn's Falls

    What Kerby says is what it is....he's forgot more about snakes than most of us will ever know!
     
  19. Ron B

    Ron B Life Sucks.....Then comes the death roll!!!!

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    Color and markings are off for a juvenile grey or black to me. Doesn't have the head of a juvenile either. Also appears to have the redish to yellowish eye more common to cornsnakes!
     
  20. Kerby Ross

    Kerby Ross KSU - Class of '83; U.S. Army - Infantry (83-92)

    Ron....

    Ron, I am not going to argue the point any further. It is not a cornsnake. I have hatched out THOUSANDS of cornsnakes. And I have hatched out hundreds of ratsnakes. It is a juvenile rat snake which looks very similar to cornsnakes.

    Cornsnakes and ratsnakes change drastically from babies to adults.

    :)

    Cheers everyone.

    Peace out.

    Kerby...