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Discussion in 'The Taxidermy Industry' started by Rick Carter, May 20, 2013.

  1. Rick Carter

    Rick Carter Administrator

    Every year a Heisman award goes out to the best college football player. Sometimes the "best" is very arguably not the best at all. (The NFL wondered why Manti couldn't stop Eddie Lacey) Many times the current "best" does not even compare to the best of previous years. What if Herschel Walker #34 of Georgia fame were the one who decided on the Heisman winner and since nobody was as good as he once was that there would not be a Heisman winner for that year.

    Titles, competitions and winnings are fine as long as you know not to really believe they are all encompassing. If you really do believe the title is true, at least don't act like you believe it. If it ever becomes time for you to decide who deserves the title, remember that you are not as good as you think you are.
  2. George

    George The older I get, the better I was.

    AMEN, Rick. I said that a few years back and got beat up since I don't compete. I hope SOMEONE can grasp that analogy.

  3. Rick Carter

    Rick Carter Administrator

    I remember, George. They obviously didn't get it then and I don't expect them to get it now either. They bought into the hype.
  4. rd@nt

    [email protected] New Member

    Very well put Rick. Randy D
  5. michael p.

    michael p. Getting better with age :)

    4sho Mr. Carter!
  6. Cory

    Cory Keep an eye on quality!

    I compare this to my daughters high school class. They will be Seniors next year. The outgoing class of 2013 had 4 valedictorians, all had 4.0 grade averages. My daughters class has a best of GPA right now at 3.75. It's not the kids fault the class is smaller, but if this kid holds on, she WILL receive the SAME recognition as the 4.0 students!

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  7. LordRusty

    LordRusty If I agreed with you, we'd both be wrong.

    Because, it's all about 'opinions' ... ;)
  8. Steven Klee

    Steven Klee Steven Klee Studios

    Well, this one is hard to analyze. One could argue competition is alot stiffer now a days. Have you tried to help your children with their homework lately? My 11 yr old daughter in 5th grade is learning 7th and 8th grade level stuff from when I went to school. This ain't grandads world any more and that's a fact. How would Herschel Walker fair now that EVERYONE in the NFL is as big as Refridgerator Perry and just as fast as old Herschel himself? Also quite a few people have stated this years competition at the world show was at the highest level they have ever seen.

    In my opinion, the reason we don't see as many people rising so far above the rest is the playing field is much more elevated and is alot more level. I don't think we should take anything away from the winners, the "opinion" was they were the best on that day. And who's to say the OTHER bests would have been at their best on THAT day. And if the true best doesn't show up that day to defend his title he has no one to blame but himself for how it turned out. It is what it is.

    That being said, corruption as George mentioned, or a judge with a swelled head as Rick mentioned is simply depressing and does exist. All one can do is the best he can, realize GOD is the only true master. Stay humble and give all awards to him and maybe the "opinion" will be in his favor the next day.

    I do agree Rick, a judge should remember he is not the true master himself.

    Best, Steve
  9. George

    George The older I get, the better I was.

    Steve, you're mixing apples and oranges. Today's academic may seem more stringent but compare them to that high school test from 1900 circling the internet. They seem that way to us because of the standard WE had to maintain. How many kids do you know today who could climb that 20 foot rope in order to pass PhysEd? How about diagramming a sentence to pass English?

    What if they held a World Series and after Game 7, they decided the team wasn't as good as the 1960 Yankees? I don't mean to speak badly about our European brothers, but they hard several "world champion" awards that would have had a tough time at some state shows. So is their World Champion listed with an asterisk? This show is the "Best of the Best" yet we subliminally tell the competitors that no one entering a piece is worthy to be called World Champion. I know that's not the intention, but like Rick said, when judges assume their egos count for something, it come out just that way.
  10. Cole

    Cole Amateur Taxidermist

    Believing titles are all encompassing is for those that have them, and believing they're just ego candy is for those that don't. I suppose I'll have to side with Rick and George, at least until I get my own title.
  11. George

    George The older I get, the better I was.

    LOL Cole. But your argument fails to mention Rick already has half a dozen and I honestly have no aspirations to ever have one.
  12. v.fleming

    v.fleming New Member

    Well said Steve! John is right, it's opinions, but most of the time the best will rise to the top. And who are we to say, well they are not as good as the last winner, no one. Sounds like all the top winners need to call "someone" to see how they really stack-up. A few people in this industry have put themselves up on a pedestal to judge everyone else, who do you think you are. Luke 6:41 Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye.
  13. Cole

    Cole Amateur Taxidermist

    I was just counting World Titles, but even then Vincent had to jump in and mess with my theory. ;D
  14. Steven Klee

    Steven Klee Steven Klee Studios

  15. George

    George The older I get, the better I was.

    LOL Steven we DO agree. "Everyone" knows The Big Red Machine" was better. There ARE many great judges out there, but that ignores that SOME carry their name recognition like a crown. Any time humans are involving the fate of others, they often act "human".

    Good post Vincent.
  16. Dan Gill

    Dan Gill New Member

    I really enjoy the critiquing, seminars, and trying to share the limited knowledge I have. The judging itself is difficult, and I try to remember that every competitor is proud of their piece. I havent judged many shows in the last 8 years. I dont like to share any less, but I havent been competing, and winning awards. So, the titles and awards are what gets you recognized and invited to judge. So am I less qualified now? probably so. I guess its all in what is important to you. I will just try harder to win another title.
  17. quest

    quest Member

    Amen to that !
  18. RichMO

    RichMO Well-Known Member

    Bottom line Judges are just People... Some are Humble and give great critiques... Some are arrogant and competetors know who they are.... Some Competetors are even more arrogant either because of who they think they are by name or just in their own personality. I watched a competetor this pas time complain because he was give a third place ribbon ( I am not a judge but I had to agree with the judge base on what I saw ).

    There will always be differences Right Wrong or Indifferent just because of the Human Factor. "[SIZE=medium]If it ever becomes time for you to decide who deserves the title, remember that you are not as good as you think you are. (This needs to include Competitors).[/SIZE]
  19. For me a bizarre post. Did I miss someone saying they were "all that" because they won a "world title". Rick I am curious to what prompted your post. Dale
  20. antlerman

    antlerman NTA Life Member #0118

    Personally, I thought the judging was excellent. The "standard" was held and nothing was given away cheaply. I heard many complaints that the judging was too hard or political on the judges part. I did not see that. I saw a standard that was not met in many instances. Yes, there were a lot of nice pieces in all categories, but the standard to declare a World Champion was not met in many instances. Do we sacrifice the standard set to award a champion? I hope not. If I ever win one, I want it to be because I earned it, and not because we are using a slide rule based on the strength of the entries that particular year. This isn't sports and we are not playing for an eventual winner. This is taxidermy, where a standard scoring system pits the entry against creation. Not against anothers entry.