Catman, that's not the story we saw here. And the 89 is just as bad in itself. No GOOD judge would ever give an 89 or a 79 to a competitor. Again, it's a carrot that's unreachable. If you don't have the balls to score it an 85 or 86, or even 88, don't go teasing and tormenting the competitor. When I ran competitions here, judges were instructed that a 79 or 89 would not be accepted for that specific reason. I don't have a bit of a problem with a mount NOT getting a blue, but I do have a problem with judges playing with people's emotions. Grow some balls and tell the person the mount isn't blue ribbon material. I still say, with a 3 judge panel, throw the low score out - EVEN IF ALL THREE ARE 99.99. You guys amaze me living the dream. Can you imagine - as I had at the NTA where a "famous" judge was fired- him going in and giving that mount a 35? IT HAPPENED. Do you see what the average would have been if it was a 90, 91, 35. It works out to a final score of 72. One dumbass judge can swing an entire competition. This guy did it and because it was close, you guys are trying to pooh pooh the result. (Even Bill implied he's cautious of saying anything for fear he may piss of someone judging his mount. LOL) The way I see it, the teaser score only hides the egregiousness of the offense. If it had been a 35, I'd hope more of you would agree with me.