3bears, you write well, but I'm not sure you understand the definitions of the words or comprehend what you've said. You started off by implying what I said was wrong but end up by validating what I said. Now I'm confused. GEEZ!!!! The NTA was based and created ON STATE ORGANIZATIONS. In fact, the original charter was copied from a state organization. The purpose of the organization was intended to be a step more critical than the state competitions with a larger selection of seminar and instruction methods. The later intent was to act as an umbrella FOR the states, but they killed that with the cockimamie "affiliation" program. You're hardly alone and in my years, I see attitudes like yours being the prime reason for ANY NATIONAL TAXIDERMY ORGANIZATION to have an uphill climb to success. Too many cooks intending to spoil the broth. Everyone insisting th at THEIR perception is better or correct. Coupling that with those intent on blowing roses up people's asses and not wanting to be transparent in ALL their dealings jeopardizes any organization. The NTA is no different.