I know when I go to mount something I get tons of reference and set around for hours. I'm in the process of mounting my first deer shoulder mount. I've mounted fawns, bobcats, coyote, turkeys so I figured it was time to do a shoulder mount since I'm sure that's what my shop will receive the most. Anyway.... A couple questions. I've heard the steroid arguments so we won't get into that one. I believe some muscle tone shows but not alot. Very large muscled deer are generally fat too. Which masks the cut look. The one that really throws me off is the lines at the back of the mouth on bucks. I have seen this in some mounts and can't seem to find any accuracy in reference. So what are the lines some have going back at the mouth corners and what's the reasoning? Last one... The veins. I was petting a buck back in summer and yes I could see his vein detail. It is very hard to notice even in summer hair but this is when details show the most. I have some very nice quality short hair capes. I'm considering putting the vein detail in. On the deer I have drying even though its very short hair you can't see the detail from the form. Anyone wanna share the secret to showing the vein?