Man you are one damn good friend, and great spokesman for taxidermists.Had some dipshits comment on my post on another internet site jelous of the kid thats getting work they arent or just being azzhats. I took pictures of a big bodied deer for my friends to see. Mind you i have hundreds of customers on it. Well i put the tape around the outside of the bucks neck at the atlas just to show the overall size of it and some dipshits started makeing comments like that is not the right way to measure it. Ya no chit. I know how to measure a deer cape for a form azzhats been doin it since I was 12 YEARS OLD!!!!! Anyway thanks Michael.