Lol, ya when it's someone else's work going to the wood shed. Go ahead, post em up. Then we'll see how much you like it! For the record, another vote for pretty harsh Dennis. If it were as easy as your post makes it sound, you would think McKenzie wouldn't have to put mounts with more problems than this in their catalogue. Cats are by far the most difficult for most of us. A PM would have been more useful. I definitely appreciated your PM on my first Bongo rather than a public beat down. Just my two cents, I admire the work of both you guys.