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denatured alchohol..CANADA!....NOT

Discussion in 'Fish Taxidermy' started by roonie, Jun 22, 2014.

  1. roonie

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    hi....cannot seem to locate any of this stuff....been to home depot and all the others....been to many pharmacies. Is there an alternative alchohol? anyone know....................? Im in Sask.
     
  2. den007

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    In any pharmacy, you will find 2 types of rubbing alcohol……..isopropyl and ethanol. If you can get ethanol rubbing alcohol………same stuff. I am curious about isopropyl. I would guess it works just the same, as I have had dissecting specimens for my students pickled in it. I would give it a shot………..no not that kind of shot!
     

  3. Old Fart

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    Have you tried a LP gas distributor? They use it to clean the LP tanks here in the US. That is, methyl alcohol or methanol.
     
  4. ljones

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    It is also used as a thinner or solvent for shellac , so I would think anyone that carries shellac would have it
     
  5. ljones

    ljones 1994 wasco award winner

    After doing a search looks like denatured alcohol is illegal to sell in Canada
     
  6. den007

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    Wow, that is strange………how can such a commonly used substance be illegal? I thought it was denatured to make "legal" hooch undrinkable. Well, there is always cheap vodka. With the price of DA as I see it here, there may not be much difference, especially if you can but the high alcohol 160 proof grain alcohol cheap and dilute it. You don't have to go strictly 50/50 water to alcohol. You can get by with less alcohol. Throw in some borax……..all is well. I am really interested to know if DA is actually banned in Canada though. What do they use for rubbing alcohol?????
     
  7. big dan

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    It is a common ingredient in making meth
     
  8. roonie

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    that would explain the strange look i got @ home depot....lol
     
  9. den007

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    For the profit in meth…….there would be no reason to use DA. REgular vodka would work. Denatured is nothing but ethyl alcohol with crap put in it so folks don't drink it or sell it at a bar. I don't see the logic in banning it of all alcohol is not banned. There are other solvents to use to make meth besides.
     
  10. FishArt

    FishArt Well-Known Member

    https://forum.canadianwoodworking.com/showthread.php?36721-source-for-denatured-alcohol/page2

    It appears as though DA in the U.S. is a pretty consistent recipe. But, not so in Canada. Read through this thread as there appears to be numerous sources (and names) for the product we in the lower 48 call 'Denatured Alcohol"...
     
  11. den007

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    Some good answers there Marty. I could not believe DA could be "banned" in Canada. It would be ridiculous and serve no purpose.
     
  12. roonie

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    i think its called Government Beauracracy denn. Just like when one of our govts brought in the metric system. way back in the 70s....heck....the farmers up here still dont use metric unless they truly have to.
     
  13. Old Fart

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    ANY alcohol will work for fish taxidermy. It's use is to dry the skin, kill bacteria that could cause decomposition, and to degrease the skins. Ethyl alcohol is the only "safe" to consume alcohol(in small quantities), the rest are poisonous to one degree or another. Because of the "booze" aspects of ethanol, it's highly taxed and regulated by governments. The true "denatured alcohol" is ethanol with one or more poisonous substances added to make it undrinkable. Typically that is or was methanol....wood alcohol, but it could be other things, too. Any alcohol or combination of alcohols that are non consumable can come under the classification of "denatured". Most have "industrial" used where they are used in the production of something and are generally CHEAP to produce. Methyl alcohol or methanol is the primary alcohol for industrial purposes.

    Out of curiosity, I looked up the "ingredients" of Methamphetamine.......only one of the recipes called for any kind of "alcohol", and that one called for iso-propyl or rubbing alcohol.
     
  14. den007

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    Roonie………I have fished in Canada now and then, and always felt odd that I had to go into a "special" store to buy beer. Almost like medical weed. Our government too likes to gain tax dollars on the sin of drinking. Prohibition was a miserable failure because any dumb a$$ can make and distill booze. Any length to make a buck……take a drinkable ethanol and make it a poison. Of course, they probably know full well some hard core alcoholics will try to drink it anyways, and end up blind or seriously ill. Yet, they are now trying to ban electronic ciggies because of course some poor fool might get hooked on second hand smoke. Ridiculous.
     
  15. Old Fart

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    Dennis, I think you're wrong about the electronic cigs.......I think that they are afraid that e-cigs will be SO SUCCESSFUL that the revenue from cigarette taxes will dry up....can't have that now, can we!
     
  16. RLang

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    I got mine at Canadian Tire in the wood stove section. If it's here in Yellowknife it should be anywhere in Canada. Hope this helps. Rob

    http://answers.canadiantire.ca/answers/9045/product/0643537P/bioflame-bioflame-ethanol-3-78l-questions-answers/questions.htm
     
  17. den007

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    You are correct Old Fart. If the Feds would legalize weed and tax it………..we might gain some real revenue. Then again, instead of using the revenue to improve schools or give folks insurance, we would probably just go start another war somewhere and blow it on ordinance. No, I don't want to hear back from every saber-rattler out there. No, I am not a socialist or communist…….maybe just have half a brain. We are not the Nanny for the world or the Big Stick or anything else. We have been eating the results of our interventions for much too long and sacrificing young men and women for nothing. Regulating ethanol is just another offshoot of prohibition……..and a nifty way to tax folks. Only the Feds know what is good for us, and will take away our guns to protect us as well. LOL