Ken, Recently I have been seeing the old "This is not a joke, you are the 10,000th visitor" message flashing in the top banner. Now I know I wasn't the 10,000th visitor 23 times. LOL Its no doubt Maleware or something nasty, not to mention annoying as h#ll. But the reason for my post, I was just forced into a BS java update. I was locked up and unable to navigate away. It started downloading before I could shut down. My virus software caught it and removed it before any harm was done. Just a heads up.