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bobcat question

Discussion in 'Beginners' started by suzzie34, Nov 13, 2014.

  1. Tanglewood Taxidermy

    Tanglewood Taxidermy Well-Known Member

    I pretty much answered this question in post ten. You should never mount a hide with out some sort of preservation. Either tanning or DP, borax, DA, etc.
     
  2. juli

    juli Active Member

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    I prefer fleshing a salted hide.. But I use a beam, not a round knife.
     

  3. nina5150

    nina5150 Well-Known Member

    If i plan on taking any hide to be professionally tanned
    i flesh,turn the eye,lips ears and remove all toe bones,salt heavy inside roll up,fur out side for 24-48 hrs,un roll,scrap off salt,resalting and massaging it into skin with allot of pressure making sure ears are well salted and packed and any creses in face or lips and feet,hang to dry,making sure where i hang its warm with fan so it will dry faster

    If i use dp
    Ive only dp small or baby animals
    If they are soiled
    after skinning i will wash in cool water with dawn then conditioner,rince,squeeze out water and towl as much water i can,takemy shop vac and blow more water off skin till it feel damp,not water soaked,rub on dp,depending on how you use the dp or what brand you can dp it,let sit in fridge ober night,dp again the next day defore mounting or mount up after applying dp up to you.i mount up after applying dp.no slippage


    I do not let any skins hang salted for more than a 2 months.its either at the tanners or in the freezer.nor will i buy any hide that are older than a year.never had one turn out to be very good.always stared to fall apart.just my experiences with hides.
     
  4. suzzie34

    suzzie34 New Member

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    GOT IT: thanks for everyones info from this post.
    I also rather flesh a salted hide. I have to use a scalpel with a green hide and the skife knife seems to work better on a salted hide, maybe with more experience I will figure something else better.

    anyway I have the bobcat in krowtann till wed. so far it looks great. it measured 30" and im thinking on getting a 29" or even 28" form seeing the tann will more than likely shrink it some, any advice on that would be great,Please.

    thanks:suzzie ::)
     
  5. twinrivers

    twinrivers Active Member

    Mounting a salted hide? Research for Pete's sake. Buy a fleshing/tanning video. Skin animal, flesh animal, salt animal, let animal dry, then do some research on tanning. If you want the best then you don't wanna use flippin dp or krowtann. Tan the hide.
     
  6. freeze_1

    freeze_1 Booboo, my business manager

    suzzie34,
    Not trying to be a smart a$$, but you wouldn't happen to be blond now would you ?
     
  7. suzzie34

    suzzie34 New Member

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    freeze-1 your not a smart a$$ your an illiterate A$$ hole! ;D this is the beginners section

    suzzie

    sounds like twinrivers is saying people who use dp are doing it the wrong way, like George for instance.
    Im pretty sure Krowtann is considered a tanning process. If you want to send a squirrel hide to a tannery instead of another do it yourself method then more power to ya.
     
  8. twinrivers

    twinrivers Active Member

    I wasn't sayin dp is wrong. There is a place for it in taxidermy. I was just saying to tan it if you are wanting the best final product. Personally I don't like Krowtan, and I do not dp anything. Everything gets tanned. Didn't mean to come off as a prick or anything, I realize this is the beginner section, but sometimes it seems that people want to do all of their learning on the forum and not outside research. I'm not picking on you and if I came off that way I apologize. I hear certain ways some do things and it isn't comprehensible to me. All of us are at different experience levels, learned differently, and can offer a variety of instruction. If you want to flesh a salted hide, or mount a salted hide then you were told the wrong information. It doesn't make sense why anyone would mount a salted hide, and flesh a dry salted hide. Or put a salted hide in the freezer. I recommend purchasing a few videos to aid in your learning.
     
  9. Tanglewood Taxidermy

    Tanglewood Taxidermy Well-Known Member

    Suzzie, have you purchased the DVDs that I suggested? They have all these questions answered for you and you can see it in action and watch them over and over. Please tell me you have purchased them.
     
  10. Bow Man

    Bow Man New Member

    Truebond!
     
  11. suzzie34

    suzzie34 New Member

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    I finished mounting my bobcat,placed the eyes exc. were I wanted them and she looked pretty good if I may say so myself then I had to go out of town for 3 days and her eyes dried out not real bad but I would like them the way the looked before, I guess I didn't pin them rite, and I need to know if it is possible to rehydrate the face? I have a damp towel with a plastic bag just on her face, Im wondering if there is a product to do it rite. it been like 5 days now

    thanks
     
  12. Jake L

    Jake L New Member

    Suzzie this may have been said before but IMO, the best thing to do is get the video from Brian Harness skinning fleshing mounting a bobcat. He was the best in world small mammal (bobcat) 2009 I think. His work is amazing & his videos can be purchased from his company Ozark Woods or Taxidermy Training Unlimited websites. Sadly he was killed 2 yrs ago in a logging accident & left us way too soon. Brian was a master at small mammals & his forms for them are the best around & easiest to work with. I assure you, you won't be disappointed with his videos or forms. It's well worth your time to check them out.
     
  13. suzzie34

    suzzie34 New Member

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    Hey man I have a bobcat dvd's, not your guy but he is pretty good at it also. My cat came out very well but like I was asking if it was possible to rehydrate the face and make changes to the eyes, Well it is if you need to know,i just did it with a wet towel and a plastic bag, worked good,took a couple days to really soften up enouph to work with.

    thanks:suzzie
     
  14. boarhunter67

    boarhunter67 Well-Known Member

    You need to make sure the face, especially around the eyes, is thinned out enough. This will help prevent pulling. You also have to babysit. You should check it a couple times a day for the first 2-3 days. Hold up reference pictures of each part (eyes, nose, mouth, ear placement, etc.) and compare and make minor adjustments.
    To fix it, rehydrate as you said.
     
  15. suzzie34

    suzzie34 New Member

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    I thought I had her face thinned out pretty well but maybe not,my first cat. the towel and bag thing was just an idea but I probably read it somewere, It surely worked. Can an old mount be rehydrated the same way? lets say like a whitetail mount be rehydrated months/years later? ive wondered that before.

    thanks for the help with my cat
    "suzzie" ;)
     
  16. KatieC

    KatieC Active Member

    You don't need to pin anything. Get those eyelids thinned down like tissue paper, tuck, and babysit as it dries.