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whitening skulls blotches

Discussion in 'Beginners' started by Skin Deep, Dec 5, 2014.

  1. Skin Deep

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    I been working on a few skulls today using the 5 hour euro mounts, which was a great tutorial! After i used the whitening agents the current tone of the skull is uneven, especially in the nasal cavities. There are two different types of white. Is there a way i can remedy these blotches? Not sure what went wrong? any input would be helpful on how to fix this.

    Seems like it is always something going wrong, its really frustrating

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  2. Mike Powell

    Mike Powell Well-Known Member

    Hard to say, but I would imagine you have areas that still have grease. Try soaking the skull for a while in a solution with Dawn and see if that clears it up.
     

  3. Skin Deep

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    if it was grease, wouldn't that be a darker area? The whole skull is white but then there is really really white spots. I took pics but can't figure out how to post them. Can anyone help me with that?
     
  4. Skin Deep

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    Hopfuly someone now can help me out.
     
  5. Mike Powell

    Mike Powell Well-Known Member

    Looks like grease to me. I would soak it in a degreaser it or mist a light coat of white paint over the entire thing to balance it out and then poat a seal coat on it.
     
  6. B Jones

    B Jones Memeber of - NTA,UTA,AIT.Proud Member of NZTA.

    Looks like grease, degrease it in a dawn solution or other degreaser, I would not paint it but that's just me.
     
  7. Skin Deep

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    After I degree it again should I Whiten it again?
     
  8. Paul B

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    Some take a few weeks of soaking to get them cleaned. I have 3 in degreaser now and after 3 soakings a week each there's still a bunch of grease on top of water and around antlers at water line. Check when you cut the skull for a mount and check the cut area in front, wet and greasy looking inside of bone. Not going to come out with a quick washing.
     
  9. Skin Deep

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    Thanks guys I am going to get on that now I will keep u updated!
     
  10. Skin Deep

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    Would simmering with daw speed up the process?
     
  11. akvz

    akvz New Member

    Don't try to "speed up" anything regarding bones... bones are a process that you can't rush or you'll seriously risk the integrity of the bone. Get an aquarium heater or bucket/tank heater, rig it up to 115 F and add some dawn... replace as the water gets cloudy or greasy looking. Deer aren't very fatty animals so it shouldn't take long, but it's down to the individual animal.
     
  12. Skin Deep

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    Ok my attempt to fix the blotching problem was a failure. I did not have an access to use an aquarium heater so morning and night I changed out the tub with fresh hot water. not once did I see an oil residue floating on top of the water. I am really questioning if it is grease or maybe I am using the whitening chemicals wrong. I been using the 40 peroxide with the whiting cream. I mix them together and saturate the skull and use a heater to activate the chemicals. I am wondering that the uneven white may be hot spots on the skull from the heater and making it a more pure white color?
     
  13. The skull looks wet like it has been pulled out of the boiling pot and the water is evaporating. But, if you've left it out of the water long enough for it to dry, then it's "wet" with grease. Ever lay fried bacon on a paper towel? Every part of the towel that soaked up grease is a little more transparent than the rest of the towel. That is what is happening with your skull. Until the grease is gone, it won't look better.
     
  14. carlabrauer

    carlabrauer Quality bone cleaning with dermestid beetles

    If you plan on doing a fair amount of skulls, it would definitely be a worthwhile investment to get an aquarium heater. I order the Aqueon brand on Amazon, and they're fairly inexpensive. From looking at your photo, it almost just looks like the skull is not fully dry. How long are you leaving it out to dry before assuming that the blotchiness is grease? Bone takes quite a while to dry, at least a couple days. Until they're fully dry, they appear to be somewhat blotchy in the dried versus still wet parts.


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  15. tylerdeloach32

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  16. carlabrauer

    carlabrauer Quality bone cleaning with dermestid beetles

    I have 100, 150 and 200 watt aquarium heaters depending on the size of the tank. They only go up to I think 89 degrees or so out of the box, but you can pull the knob that you turn that controls the temp out and mess with the mechanism below it. Basically what I do is turn it all the way up, remove the knob and put it back it and the lowest setting, then turn it all the way up again. I keep an aquarium thermometer in there to gauge what temp the water is. I've gotten them up to 115 no problem. :)
     
  17. Raphite01

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    It looks like grease to me. Often you won't notice any grease floating on top, it just gradually emulsifies into the water and makes it cloudy. A few days of manually changing out the water isn't very long at all.