I paid him for 24 bobwhite quail and he sent them right away. I opened them and they looked like they flopped around in the box and killed each other......a mess. It looked like they were trying to escape.....birds stuffed in the corners, twisted, and handfulls of feathers everywhere. Out of the 24 birds I wanted for flyers, I found 5 I would use for flyers and 3 I would use for standers if I had to. He says he packed them in neat rows and that they were all nice mountable birds..BS! There are primary wing feathers laying loose in the box.........they don't just fall out! I have never seen anything like this. DO NOT BUY QUAIL FROM NATURES REFLECTION TAXIDERMY IN WEST VIRGINIA!!!