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Discussion in 'Deer and Gameheads' started by Redfisher, Jan 8, 2015.

  1. Redfisher

    Redfisher New Member

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    Now this is what I'm talking about, "their paying for it". I should have left it at that and agreed with straight pose, my opinion shouldn't mean squat, but this deer is to darn nice for a straight, "my opinion" so I talked him out of it. Now I really feel bad and will call him back when the hide comes in from tannery ready to mount.. Tell him it will look great either way!!!Here's a pic of the deer
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  2. tem

    tem Well-Known Member

    my customers like it in the pose it was when shot. so far no straight on. I do have a couple hanging up they can see from a nother taxi guy did. they don't seem to like it. put if one wants one. hell get it.
     

  3. livbucks

    livbucks Well-Known Member

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    That buck is begging for a wall ped. Sheesh, stop thinking it to death!
     
  4. Crowkiller

    Crowkiller New Member

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    You talked him out of a Str. mount,now run with it ! Don'T feel bad about it,
     
  5. James Marsico

    James Marsico Well-Known Member

    Sometimes with a straight on pose the antlers or horns will look cocked on wrong; one twisted a little different than the other that the client never noticed on the dead on the ground animal but will on the finished mount if it is straight on. I point that out and tell them it might look better right or left. Never a over sell just good business.
     
  6. 1fish2fish

    1fish2fish Well-Known Member

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    That's a good point James. If you have a specific reason that the mount may not look as good in a particular pose, that isn't based on your own specific general preference, then it makes perfect sense to communicate that to the client. I'd almost consider it an obligation to inform him/her politely and let him/her make an informed decision.

    Heck, if you have a pose you think would really show off the animal, telling the client politely why that is ain't gonna send the client packing. Most clients love to hear why their trophy is unique and awesome and are easy to influence by admiring their trophy. Just make sure your artistic vision is sound and avoid being argumentative, that will send a client packing.

    Not saying this is the case for you Redfisher........but, if a deer taxidermist can't make a good looking straight upright that he/she would stand behind...........he/she ain't got the stuff. It's not like a straight upright position doesn't exist in the deer woods. Those folks can always send them to Steve, he'll do them right.

    Best, Scott
     
  7. Paul B

    Paul B Active Member

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    If they insist that's what they want, I go with straight upright ears forward or offset as Steve posted. They look the most eye pleasing and natural like they just busted you out in the field, then say a semi sneak/sneak, with the head sticking straight out like their neck is on the chopping block.
     
  8. juli

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    you mean these antlers might not look good on a straight ahead mount? :)

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  9. Paul B

    Paul B Active Member

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    I don't think antlers make or break a mount position, its just those straight neck sticking out look that kills it for me.
     
  10. Dont matter who mounted it. Straights look like something bought at a wallmart.
     
  11. Trophy Specialist

    Trophy Specialist Active Member

    I think a lot of taxidermists let their own personal preferences dictate the poses for their customers. For instance, I've read on here multiple times where taxidermists have stated that they refuse to do ears forward mounts. I have over a dozen whitetail shoulder mounts in my studio with half ears forward and half back. My customers look them over and most choose to have them set forward on their mount order. Most people just like the ears forward and to force them to accept something other than what they want is not good business in my opinion. The same goes for straight poses. I have only one straight pose in my studio, yet I still get a lot of straight pose orders every year and I am certainly not going argue with my customers about that choice. I have one customer that that came to me specifically because he wanted a straight, upright pose with the ears forward and another taxidermist would not do it for him on his 190 class buck. Since then, I have probably mounted over 20 straight, upright, ears-forward whitetails for him over the years and he has also brought me lots of other business to from his referrals. I'm certainly glade that the other taxidermist refused to do his straight mount. :)
     
  12. KFLAH

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    If you do a good job, any pose will look good. That being said, I'd rather have a customer say "man, I should have went with a left turn to accentuate the rack" or "a right turn so it is looking toward the enterance of the room," or whatever, because of a decision he/she made...not one I made. It's never good business to have a customer upset with the pose because of something the taxi picked...that is one of the many reasons I started doing my own mounts.

    Kevin
     
  13. I always ask them. Are you sure you want a straight ? Followed with, I dont like them at all. That's just my opinion ,but that don't mean you won't like it. 7 times out of ten, I get the same response.( OK just do what you think is best.) The other two will pick a turn . Only one will stay with straight.
    When most pick a straight it because they have given any thought as to where they are going to hang it. Straight is a quick fix in there mind.(straight goes any place).
    No matter, I don't care for, Ford, liver, winter, and fat girls , but lots if people do. ;D ;D
     
  14. juli

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    I think you are correct. Preferences can certainly put an emphasis on the type of pose or even facial expression of an animal. The taxi I worked for for many years prefers a turn on most mounts - even on life sizes standing square on all fours he will turn the body (usually the head is already turned). He also prefers his bear, wolf, cat eyes pretty wide open - not overly so, but definitely on the 'verge'. Now that I have recently started my own business I am reteaching myself to be able to accomplish different expressions (not just open/alert). It is hard. LOL..

    That said, every taxi has their own style, and every customer too...and eventually people find the taxi whose mounts most closely match the style they want.
     
  15. There are straight forms that mount up nice. There are also options. Customer says I have one Lt and one Rt, I want this one straight so I can put it in the middle. Okay, we have some straight options and show them the following. Half will choose the Rev. Curious Alert and half will choose the Mears straight semi up or insist on the upright. Explain the upright form will take away from the bulk of the neck and most will go with one of the two below. Let them pick the ear position and ultimately the pose.
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  16. Tanglewood Taxidermy

    Tanglewood Taxidermy Well-Known Member

    Ron, those don't remind me of Walmart. They remind me of what I usually see right before I see a tail heading directly away from me. Lol. Sweet mounts!
     
  17. turkeyshooter

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    One of you brought up a good point. This is only my 2nd season mounting deer but I just mounted one for a customer that requested a straight w ears forward as that is the the way the buck was standing before he pulled the trigger. So I mounted it that way and I don't like it. With my in-experience I didn't think about one antler being smaller than the other side. Tines were shorter, and the main beam came out a slight different angle. Must have been injured when in velvet. Anyway the straight pose just brings out the difference in the antlers even more. Wish I would have read this first. I would have talked him out of it for sure! :'(
     
  18. oldboar

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    Just my two cents worth. I'm not vain enough to worry about my work being represented less than perfect. I've never mounted a deer that was anywhere close to what a deer is alive...neither has anyone else:)

    If a client wanted it posed with eyes crossed and sneezing....I'd do it in a heart beat.

    FORCING my idea for a pose on someone else is a huge turn OFF, and in my opinion poor salesmanship.

    The customer is always right where I come from:)
     
  19. livbucks

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    In any business deal, I always offer up my experience and try to help the customer to make a good versus bad decision. In a tactful way and non forceful of course. If they demand it then so be it.
     
  20. taxmax

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    Before I got into taxidermy, I had a taxidermist tell me deer don't put their ears forward. Seems t