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Open Letter to John Creager, Mitch Webb and NTA - BOD's

Discussion in 'The Taxidermy Industry' started by John Janelli, Jul 14, 2015.

  1. Brian Reinertson

    Brian Reinertson Well-Known Member

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    Same old story I've heard for years now. Why would anyone pay dues to an organization when there are so many other taxidermy associations that don't have constant accusations and controversy surrounding it?? This has just gotten pathetic. I don't recall one instance of this kind of crap with the UTA. Seems simple to me, the NTA drama is a black eye to our art, bottom line. There needs to be a new place where an accomplished artist can win a national title not tainted by the leadership being surrounded by constant controversy.
     
  2. RichMO

    RichMO Active Member

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    Brian, I was wondering the same thing you are on the UTA. I don't recall any slander, people being as pissed off at one another or disliked board members as in this group (NTA). Maybe because it's posted all over this site. I'm sure that at the show it will not show as most people are there for the competition and have a great time but, it will be there and it does exist (human nature). You don't need the NTA to have a national title or ribbon... The UTA is another alternative, is just as good in that they to also draw from across the country. UTA has 8 board members that include the President and staff. The NTA has 19 that includes the President and staff and an "advisory board"????. Either way both are good organizations both run by people.
     

  3. George

    George The older I get, the better I was.

    Lest you both forget, the UTA was created by NTA members and many of them (me included) are still NTA members and NTA LIFE MEMBERS. The NTA actually IS the only place you can become National Champion and receive the Award if Excellence. It's one helluva great launching pad of competition for the World Show if you're into that. You can't be part of a solution while sitting in the Peanut Gallery. You spend more money on sodas and beer in a month than a tax deductible NTA membership.
     
  4. George, at least the beer and soda tasted good! I have joined the NTA twice in recent years. All I ever received from them was the weekly email NTA newsletter. Never nothing back with a membership certificate - nothing. Once they had my money they were done with me.

    Bruce
     
  5. George

    George The older I get, the better I was.

    Bruce, the organization has been in chaos for about 6-7 years now. Imagine your house being burned down along with all the records surrounding it. At last night's membership meeting I endorsed converting The Outlook to digital format. They are working on making the NTA website interactive. Both good ideas. I would like to see them convert membership to a format like the states now use for hunter education certifications. (How many of you are going to tell me you read Outlook for more than 5 minutes or produced your membership card to impress someone?)
     
  6. Well, the first time was 2011 when the Crains were in charge. The next I sent my money to joe Kulas. Pretty sure his house didn't burn down. Hope they turn it around.
     
  7. Brian Reinertson

    Brian Reinertson Well-Known Member

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    I don't care if NTA dues were 50 cents. I will never be part of an association in such disarray. Do you think this posts timing was random?? There is a witch hunt going on still and that means this is a mess.

    Both my wife and I sit on the BOD of our state association and if things were even close to this crap we wouldn't handle things in this childish manner. Letting everyone on taxinet know a board member "might" be racist exactly when the show is happening is school yard bs. Adults don't handle issues like this. Sad..
     
  8. John Janelli

    John Janelli New Member

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    Brian, with all due respect to you and the NTA, how would you suggest to "handle issues like this" when the president and vice president simply choose to ignore even positive emails and phone calls I've made and sent well before this topic was posted. Witch hunt? No sir. Not on my end of the keyboard anyway. "Might" be racist? In my opinion that's like being a little bit pregnant. You bet I take that seriously when a board member publicly shoots off his mouth in social media against a race of people and then worse, lies and denies it. Please tell me how a man can brag about being friends with an African American after he posted such an inflammatory comment as Creager made on facebook? Consider me extremely proud when I say that Sinclair Clark and his family are my family. He was a black man who virtually took me and dozens of other kids like me under his wing and gave us a career in taxidermy. And that's the only thing that ignited my own angry frustrations through out this entire thread. It was not timing nor my intention to deface the NTA or anyone attached to it. There's a great NTA show going on right now. Since when would that make anyone impervious to such immature and hateful expressions of racism? I've been asked to drop this and I'm trying to do just that. But I'm not giving up defending what I wrote when NTA board member Creager refuses to take responsibility for what he wrote. It's that simple because it's that's personal.
     
  9. Michael Bunker

    Michael Bunker Mongo only pawn in game of life.

    Creager has been spewing bigotry on this site for years either thru posting sor his stupid avatars.
     
  10. Lets preach ethics (racism bigotry) Inside the NTA, Yet the NTA allowed this this POS in side. You don't think every christian that had to view that didn't feel attacked and ashamed of the NTA for allowing such a thing to get through the door. Even If only one person found it hurtful it would be no different than whats this entire post is all about to begin with ! Let some guy get passionate about a southern monument that a certain group of people want removed, and sound off about it with a racial slur and lets get a lynch mob together. Bring a sacrilegious item int to a event and its called art so that's ok . BS ! That's as anti christian as it can get. Don't try to piss down my back and tell me its raining either. Thats not the sacrificial lamb .




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  11. Crittercoroner

    Crittercoroner DUDE, your uselessness is epic!

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    I may be mistaken, but that ribbon next stays Garden State Taxidermy Asssociation and not NTA. I think that picture is from the New Jersey show
     
  12. Whitetailart

    Whitetailart New Member

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    That's at the Nj show and was in the Rogue taxidermy Division has nothing to do with the NTA
     
  13. I dont know , it was posted as pics from the NTA on here. But regardless, Same difference !
     
  14. Crittercoroner

    Crittercoroner DUDE, your uselessness is epic!

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    Show me the link where that was posted as being from the NTA show otherwise I call shenannigans AND bulllshot.

    I'm thinking someone is just lookiing to add fuel to this funeral pyre.
     

  15. http://www.taxidermy.net/forum/index.php/topic,387509.0.html
    https://www.facebook.com/Rick.Krane.Anglers.Artistry

    I'm assuming you're a big boy and can figure the rest of the links out on your own ? ::) ::) :-\ :-\ ;D

    It will be cleared up soon as some one that attended post.

    But like I said it doesn't matter if its there, here, over there, were ever its still all falls under the same guidelines . And dang sure if it offends SOME members and the viewing public .
    If thats not so then leave me and my rebel flag alone, let me enjoy stone mountain in peace, Stop worrying about people say in private and personal conversations.
    Mama always said, sweep around your own door step before sweeping somebody elses. Some folks need to do some serious sweeping ! I'm sure i need to check my door as well.
     
  16. pir^2h

    pir^2h Retrievers give you the bird

    For what it is worth...The photo is on Rick's page but not with the NTA photo album set. It is with a series of photos that contains both NTA and Garden State. It does clearly indicate at the bottom left of the photo it was from the Garden State Taxidermy Show.
     
  17. ELMER GANTRY

    ELMER GANTRY **THE DISTANCE OF GOOSE**

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    There are no less than FOUR shows shown on Rick's Facebook page, the NTA's pictures are first, then the New Jersey State show, where the picture in question was taken, then a series of pictures of the World Show, and last but not least "the best of the west". If you put your cursor on the thumbnail picture it pretty well tells you from what show the picture came from. The man holding up #33 is the first in line of the New Jersey show.
     
  18. Thanks Elmer and pir^2h for clearing up, where it was at.
    I was so shocked at the pic I didnt even see the writing come up at the bottom.


    But like I said it doesn't matter if its there, here, over there, were ever its still all falls under the same guidelines . And dang sure if it offends SOME members and the viewing public.
    If thats not so then leave me and my rebel flag alone, let me enjoy stone mountain in peace, Stop worrying about some people say in private and personal conversations.
     
  19. Some body with a better memory than I, for some reason the thought has popped into my head that I've seen the photo before. Has it been posted here before?
     
  20. Crittercoroner

    Crittercoroner DUDE, your uselessness is epic!

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    No, it has nothing to do with this thread and only fans the flames here.It' has absolutely nothing to do with this and should be deleted from the whole thread. If it's that important to you, have at it in another thread.

    Keep your flag and your beliefs, I have nothing to say either way for or agaibst except maybe send me one or two flags as they seem a little scarce up here. I'll tighteen you up for postage and such.