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Question on caping. Opinions and Experiences?

Discussion in 'Deer and Gameheads' started by BrookeSFD16, Nov 30, 2015.

  1. BrookeSFD16

    BrookeSFD16 Well-Known Member

    OP here. Yes, what I was getting at is the additional 4 hours of ambient temperature + body temp. Since we are in the South, culture ( Bubba riding around showing off his buck) and the fact its really never cold. The ticks....omgn. With the responses I'm going to stick with putting it in the freezer. If nothing else, it's my preference.

    Adrenaline. .I really do appreciate the comments. And I'm not being a smart##=. I've never been offended. Just choose not to be. I get what everyone's saying, about 4 hours being too long, and we are aware of that and are attempting to improve with every deer. We're new, gonna keep on learning.

    Thanks everyone for posting...love you George! Still open for opinions and expirences.
     
  2. Gurneyjockey

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    How much are you willing to pay!? I may have to rethink my business strategy lol
     

  3. tem

    tem Well-Known Member

    years ago I use to build storm windows. had a guy tell me he could cut and put one to gether in a half hour. that's glazing and screening. I chuckled at him. he said in time I would also be doing it. well in two years I was. couldn't believe it. so it is passable to do a deer in a very short time. I'm not that fast yet. but getting there.
     
  4. Skin Deep

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    I enjoyed this thread, good read!

    I been in the game for a little over 3 years now. I skin out all my heads the same day, put in the freezer to kill ticks and work on them at a latter date. If it was not for the ticks on the deer i would immediately spit them also, working on a fresh cape seems easier to me.

    It takes me a little over 2 hours to split, turn and flesh. The time killer for me is rough fleshing the face. I have been trying to get better on this step, but man it is kicking my rump. Well its all in time im sure.
     
  5. davehyer

    davehyer Active Member

    I took Georges advice and now spray mine down with horse fly spray? tick killer. It works well.

    For rough fleshing the face I split everything with a scalpel and then I use utility hand shears from wiss to flesh the face. for me it wroks much better than anything else I have tried.
     
  6. Wildthings

    Wildthings Well-Known Member

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    Brookes I'm with you, over east of Houston, with the temperature. I'm wondering why you power wash your deer before salting. If they are going to a tannery then that's really a wasted effort. If tanning them yourself then I could see that. It typically takes me 2 - 2 1/2 hours per deer. At our last convention there was a guy doing a fleshing seminar and he impressed on me I was doing way too much before salting and going to a tannery, Now I just split turn and flesh the face and remove all big chunks. Before It was totally clean of all meat, membrane, fat etc. JM2C
    Barry
     
  7. BrookeSFD16

    BrookeSFD16 Well-Known Member

    Barry, yes we tan our own. We only do about 60 heads a year. And yeah, our Temps are a bummer.
     
  8. Jerry Huffaker

    Jerry Huffaker Well-Known Member

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    Bring your check book by sometime Geno and I'll demonstrate.
     
  9. KatieC

    KatieC Active Member

    Takes me about 4 hours also. Not sure how people are doing it faster. I use Stop Rot on every cape. Maybe I'm trying to do too much on them before sending them off, but I like a fairly clean salted cape that doesn't need lots of further prep and thinning on detail areas when it comes back from the tannery.
     
  10. ortegageno

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    Hey Jerry, I wanna see it happen at the Texas show. I will have my check book. Lol. Hell if I could get that down to 1 hour I would be loving life.
     
  11. George

    George The older I get, the better I was.

    Jerry don't want any checks Hammer. LOL
     
  12. In reading through some of the replys on this thread it appears that a "properly fleshed" caped is different for everybody. Can someone who can cape, split, and flesh in the 1 hour range post pics. (davehyer, George, etc)

    I'm just curious if I'm fleshing "too" much. It takes me about 2.5 hours to flesh and split, 20-30 minutes to cape and I use stop-rot. I've been doing this for about 2 years and have done about a dozen heads. I have a very good finished product when the capes are tanned so I don't feel the need to change much but, if I can save some time I will definitely look into it.

    I am a welder by trade and I understand how repetition will speed a process up. I started welding on pressure vessels with a standard time of 15 hours/vessel. After 5 years, I was doing two vessels in that time with perfect results. I know caping can be the same thing and I am interested, as the OP is as well, in getting better.
     
  13. Trophy Specialist

    Trophy Specialist Well-Known Member

    It takes me about 20-30 minutes to cape a deer depending on how much neck meat was left on and other particulars. By the time I cut off the antlers, flesh them, rough flesh the cape, label, bag and freeze it, record measurements and document any problems on the work order and clean up, I probably have 40-50 minutes into the job. I store my raw capes frozen and pull them out of the freezer prior to starting the tanning process. Turning ears, splitting lips and fine fleshing takes me another 45 minutes and is done prior to salting.
     
  14. davehyer

    davehyer Active Member

    I will try to post some pics later this evening.

    I had my tannery do some fleshing for me when I was moving, and the ones I flesh have considerably less on them when I'm finished than the ones my tannery fleshed for me.
    He also told me that mine were better than the average that he gets from other customers for tanning.
     
  15. George

    George The older I get, the better I was.

    I don't know what else I'm supposed to say. I've been at this for over 55 years and I'd hope I got better at it. Back in my DP era, I could cape, flesh, wash, DP, and mount the animal in about 5 hours. On good days I could get 3 done in a day. Today, I'm probably about the same time frame for deer. I flesh it and then talk on the phone for 30 minutes, flesh it and watch a rerun episode of NCIS and salt it. Then go on Facebook and the Taxidermy net for the rest of the day, make a few calls, take a few calls, eat lunch and supper and then watch the late news. The next day I'll tan it and then spend the next 6 hours messing with mounting deer feet and antler caps that I've put off for a few months. It takes about an hour and a half to get one mounted and then I check Facebook and the Taxidermy Net, I go back and adjust the ears and the eyelids and call Richard Christoforo and shoot the breeze, watch reruns of CSI and then go back and adjust the skin for a final time before closing the shop. So I guess it takes me about 8 hours from caping to salting and then another 12 for tanning and mounting just so I can mount one deer every two days. That sound about right?
     
  16. Duckslayr

    Duckslayr Active Member

    I split, turned, fleshed, rinsed and krowtanned four pronghorn and two deer from the freezer yesterday . Took 7 hours.

    Here's a video of the fleshing with a knife on a beam. It shows how clean I get them before salting or krowtanning. Also shows rough fleshing face. I have a feeling some that take a long time waste it on fleshing. I know if I hadn't been taught be someone fast, I would have been MUCH more cautious on the step. 16 minutes. Just get after it with a sharp knife!
    http://youtu.be/GiXwVLxOUWE
     
  17. davehyer

    davehyer Active Member

    Here is a pic
     

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  18. Deerman

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    I would love to see a video of you doing this in one hour, would even pay for it, I am not saying you can't do it, I would just like to see, because I would like to be that fast if possible.
     
  19. Paul B

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    From taking measurements, caping using short y, removing neck left in, fleshing, turning and salting and cutting off antlers and cleaning plate, 1 1/2 - 2 hours tops. Can kill some time opening up cape but no sewing later. If I try to go faster I usually have to stop for a peroxide and Band-Aid fix.
     
  20. davehyer

    davehyer Active Member

    Deer man
    I did take some video but haven't had any luck posting yet.

    I will take another stab at it.