. LMAO! George, I have said the same type thing about Jeff Lumsden using water paints instead pf lacquers. I see a lot of people screw up tanning and preservation processes that should have worked out fine. They insist that they followed proper instructions but you know they did something wrong. There is nothing in the water in Georgia that make products work magically. As thin as I get a cape detailed you could probably rub Old Spice after shave on it and still win in masters. Krowtann is still my go to tanning product and it would be risky for me to trust anything else. It totally provides the feel I'm looking for. And it IS a tan according to the German industrial chemist that was instrumental in formulating it. Sorry his chemistry degree wasn't bestowed by taxidermy website tanning trolls.