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euro bird tracings

Discussion in 'Bird Taxidermy' started by byrdman, Apr 18, 2017.

  1. Apr 18, 2017 #1
    byrdman

    byrdman Well-Known Member

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    anyone have tracings for hazel grouse,hooded crow,jay,black cock
     
  3. May 2, 2017 #2
    byrdman

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    anyone? need caper to along with blackcock hooded crow hazel
     

  5. May 2, 2017 #3
    Nancy C

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    It's been a long time, and I've only received one, but I remember that a hazel grouse fit perfectly on a mountain quail form. Black cocks are equivalent to prairie chickens or sharptails, and for capercaillies I ended up using a form from Reasearch (which fit nicely) because nobody seemed to have any contact sketches.
     
  6. May 3, 2017 #4
    idbatman

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    I have some measurements here some where but no sketches. I will look today.
     
  7. May 3, 2017 #5
    byrdman

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    thanks Nancy,yes the hazel are tiny...have tracings for mearns valley,but didnt save mountain tracings...are they close? The sharpie and pinnaetets I have are quite different in size but chicken is lesser ,and Jay if you can email me or pm me any numbers will be grateful,still have to post a pic of the sages from you...assume a nw or smaller com crow would work for hooded.
     
  8. May 5, 2017 #6
    Nancy C

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    Byrdman, here are the dimensions of my mountain quail sketches. They're pretty big for quail, but not ruffed grouse sized.

    Side view:
    front of breast to end of rump: 4 1/4" (add another 3/8" for tail bone)
    highest point of back to lowest point of breast (top to bottom) 2 5/8"

    Top view:
    width across hips and widest point of breast meat is the same - 2 1/8"

    Neck is 3' from between wing sockets, or 2 5/8" from front of breast

    Shape-wise they're completely ordinary, so just scale up any quail sketch and you will have it.
     
  9. May 5, 2017 #7
    byrdman

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    thanks Nancy
     
  10. Jun 2, 2017 #8
    idbatman

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  11. Jun 3, 2017 #9
    byrdman

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    thanks jay...big help!
     
  12. Jun 3, 2017 #10
    byrdman

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    anyone know if hooded crow is same size as common n.american crow? and still need capercallie tracings or size
     
  13. Jun 4, 2017 #11
    rai_red

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    Pat, sorry for my delay, but will give you all you need in a few days
     
  14. Jun 4, 2017 #12
    byrdman

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    ok thanks Rai